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Fatty Fish & PCa Progression

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Does anyone know if there are exceptions to the view that arachinodic acid contributes to cancer progression when it comes to fatty fish? Fatty fish to me has always been perceived as a good source of protein if you need to avoid red meat and go low carbohydrates.

Does anyone know what amounts of fatty fish maybe considered too much? On occasions, for example, I like to eat two cans of sardines or fatty fish instead of just one, a couple times a week, in order to get closer to meeting my daily protein requirements which is very hard to do if you are not eating red meat or chicken, etc.

Here is an excerpt from an article on arachinodic acid, stating that excessive intake may lead to inflammation, hence, in my mind biochemical recurrence. This makes sense for foods like eggs or red meat but what about fatty fish?

FROM ARTICLE:

Considerations

It's essential to balance your intake of arachidonic acid with other essential fatty acids, such as omega-3 fatty acids (e.g., DHA and EPA), to maintain overall health and optimize the ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids in the diet. While arachidonic acid is necessary for health, excessive intake may contribute to inflammation in some individuals. Therefore, moderation and balance in dietary fat intake are key.

metwarebio.com/arachidonic-...

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My husband has baby asprin to counter arachidonic acid

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/755....

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brilliant17 in reply toLizzo30

Thank you Lizzo30. I have also heard of the heart-related benefits of taking baby aspirin. How much or how frequently does your husband consume fish versus other types of meat if any? What prompted him to start taking baby aspirin?

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Lizzo30 in reply tobrilliant17

Hi brilliant 17 my husband has 75mg of asprin quite often maybe 3 times a week

I'm currently looking into methionine and how this seems to be involved with pca

Very best to you

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brilliant17 in reply toLizzo30

I wonder if this might be interest. From time to time as I read different things, I make notes of things that are interesting in terms of prostate cancer prevention. I came across this in my notes but I don’t have the source. I wonder if any of this is something you heard or read as well

“Prostate cancer cells feed on methionine, which is an amino acid not made from the body. Fruits and veggies contain the least amount of methionine while meat and dairy contain the most. While we cannot completely eliminate methionine, we can create a low-methionine diet”

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Lizzo30 in reply tobrilliant17

Yes I am reading alot about methionine atm It's very interesting - men of African decent have high methionine levels and it's a known fact that black men are most at risk of prostate cancer

It seems cancer feeds off methionine

Hydrogen peroxide h202 moderates methionine

This is extremely interesting - there is a post just a few back from this mentioning methionine restriction diet

Of course you can't restrict methionine in your diet you can only target an enzyme or something

black men also have a higher rate of schizophrenia methionine can build up in the brain without required enzymes to process it and cause an overload of dopamine it has been noted they have a low lever or h2O2 (hydrogen peroxide ) which seems to be required to process methionine

Seems the same applies to breast cancer

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Nusch

You may want to read this:

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl...

I’m on a plant based diet plus fish and doing well.

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brilliant17 in reply toNusch

This was a fascinating study. What do you mean by doing well? I realize it would only be your opinion. Do you mean good weight control, stable PSA or some other improvement compared to the time when you were not on a plant-based diet plus fish. Thanks again for your input.

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Nusch in reply tobrilliant17

You find all my details in my bio. Dxed 11/2017 with PSA 2.222 followed by surgery, chemos, radiation, ADT etc. - full program. Now more than two years undetectable PSA, BMI 19, good muscle mass, running 10km daily and weight lifting every second day. I trust my doctors and complement with exercise, diet, stress management and sleep.

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Seasid in reply toNusch

Your bio after I asked ChatGPT to present it.

Here’s a more concise and readable version of the bio:

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Prostate Cancer History:

November 2017: Diagnosed with a PSA of 2.222 and Gleason Score 8. Started ADT and Taxotere in December 2017, followed by surgery in April 2018. Continued ADT until June 2019.

2020: Rising PSA detected. PSMA PET identified one pelvic lymph node (PLN). Treated with IMRT/VMAT in September 2020 alongside six months of ADT.

2021: PSA rose again. PSMA PET was negative.

January 2022: New PSMA PET showed potential recurrence in the prostate bed and two PLNs. Treated with IMRT/VMAT in March 2022 (25 fractions) targeting the prostate bed, lymph nodes, and lymphatic drainage. ADT reinitiated, resulting in PSA reduction to 0.1 from 1.4. Erleada postponed.

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Treatment Updates:

July 2022: PSA undetectable (<0.05), testosterone <0.1 ng/mL.

March 2023: PSA undetectable, testosterone 0.1 ng/mL. PSMA PET/CT showed full remission.

May 2023: Diagnosed with diffuse large B-cell lymphoma (PTL). Underwent surgery on the left testicle, R-CHOP therapy, and CNS prophylaxis. PSA undetectable, testosterone <0.1 ng/mL.

October 2023: PSA undetectable, testosterone <0.1 ng/mL. Last Lupron shot; DLBCL in complete remission.

February 2024: Contralateral testicle removed to reduce the risk of PTL recurrence. Surgery successful.

April 2024: PSA undetectable, testosterone <0.1 ng/mL. PSMA PET/CT clean. Lupron discontinued. Complete remission achieved.

October 2024: PSA remains undetectable, testosterone <0.1 ng/mL, blood levels improved, and complete remission continues.

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Let me know if you'd like further refinements.

ChatGPT said

Sorry if ChatGPT missed something important... István

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Nwdx

Do you watch Nutritionfacts.org/Dr. Gregers videos?

youtube.com/watch?v=00heGaO... Arachidonic acid inflamation

youtube.com/watch?v=-0ap3dV... Archnidonic Vegan best

youtube.com/watch?v=CVAog5_... Methonine

youtube.com/watch?v=Sc3owqo... Metastisis 4:02 prostate cancer

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