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New paper below [1].

In 1995, Edward Giovannucci was responsible for triggering the PCa lycopene craze.

"Of 46 vegetables and fruits or related products, four were significantly associated with lower prostate cancer risk; of the four--tomato sauce, tomatoes, and pizza, but not strawberries--were primary sources of lycopene."

Suddenly, pizza was a health food?

I often wondered about the lack of interest in fisetin (from strawberries). By ten years later, shortly after I was diagnosed. no product had emerged.

PCa studies began appearing in 2006, with 4 appearing in 2015.

The product I was waiting for did emerge: Novusetin, from Rhus succedanea (stem), but the PCa world yawned.

It turned out that fisetin was waiting for Life Extension to jump start the senolytics craze. Lots of competing fisetin products now.

But rutin? [3].

"Rutin, a phytochemical constituent found in a number of plants, showed remarkable capacity in targeting senescent cells by dampening expression of the full spectrum SASP."

{"Senescent cells develop the pro-inflammatory senescence-associated secretory phenotype (SASP), which significantly contributes to organismal aging and age-related disorders."}

"Further analysis indicated that rutin restrains the acute stress-associated phenotype (ASAP) by specifically interfering with the interactions of ATM with HIF1α, a master regulator of cellular and systemic homeostasis activated during senescence, and of ATM with TRAF6, part of a key signaling axis supporting the ASAP development toward the SASP."

"Conditioned media produced by senescent stromal cells enhanced the malignant phenotypes of prostate cancer cells, including in vitro proliferation, migration, invasion, and more importantly, chemoresistance, while rutin remarkably downregulated these gain-of-functions."

"remarkable capacity", "remarkably downregulated" - unusual language in PubMed papers. I have to get some [4].

-Patrick

[1] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/374...

[2] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/747...

[3] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutin

[4] swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=rutin

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Scout4answers

another no brainer! well, except you had the brains to find it. Thanks again Patrick

Any thoughts on dosage necessary to get the effect described?

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Scout4answers

I went on Amazon for feedback and people (users) are claiming it reduces hemorrhoids' and varicose veins, clearly anti-inflammatory.

Also: "clearing my bruises and age spots from my forearms" if just this last is true it will be worth the price.

Great find Patrick

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GreenStreet

Thanks Patrick. Just happened to read after pizza , chips and tomato sauce lycopene unhealthy evening meal. Currently testing out my blood sugar spikes in real time as part of the Zoe app. Walking light exercise really helps control the spikes, Will definitely look for Rutin as I do Fisetin and Lycopene. BTW I generally go for Lipsomal Fisetin for absorption but might try your Rev Genetics stuff but it is ultra expensive in U.K.

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Cygnus52

Thanks for calling attention to this. I’ve been a keen “rutinizer” since 2006 when I was living in Bulgaria and was suffering from “venous insufficiency, “ resulting in swollen ankles (edema), orthostatic hypotension and other symptoms. A friend mentioned a product made in Bulgaria called troxerutin that might help and it did— magnificently. It works better for me in this context than diosmin, pycnogenol, and horse chestnut. A close second is butcher’s broom.

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MateoBeach

I'm in! Will sprinkle some rutin on my pizza.

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Kuanyin

Hi Patrick. First of all, in one paper rutin is used in conjunction with a chemotherapeutic drug. This in itself is problematical. In the other paper people are asked to recall what they ate. However, the real issue, as usual, remains, what is the effective dosage of rutin to have any affect. I weigh 140lbs: how much rutin do I need to ingest daily?

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