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Post-diagnostic Zinc Supplement Use and PCa Survival Among Men With Nonmetastatic PCa

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New U.S. study [1].

Leitzmann / Giovanucci (2003) killed zinc supplementation for many men [2].

That study associated doses above 100 mg with an increased risk of advanced PCa.

In general, one must be wary of creating a mineral imbalance when taking high doses of any single mineral.

From the 2003 Giovannucci paper [2]: "Supplemental zinc intake at doses of up to 100 mg/day was not associated with prostate cancer risk. However, compared with nonusers, men who consumed more than 100 mg/day of supplemental zinc had a relative risk of advanced prostate cancer of 2.29 ..."

In 2011, Giovannucci was part of a study of Swedish data (Epstein / Mucci) [3]: "High dietary zinc intake was associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer-specific mortality".

The healthy prostate has an enormous appetite for zinc, as it does for citrate. The zinc protects the citrate from oxidation. Citrate is a significant component of the ejaculate.

PCa cells down regulate the uptake of zinc. So it's natural to ask if zinc is relevant after diagnosis.

A 2008 paper (Dubi / Hershfinkel, Israel) [4] convinced me that it might be worth supplementing with zinc citrate. I use 50 mg daily.

See also Hong / Kim, Korea, 2012 [5]. "Antiproliferative effects of zinc-citrate compound on hormone refractory prostate cancer". (Cell study.)

One reason to use some zinc is that it protects against cadmium. An irony, though, is that zinc & cadmium are often found together & that some supplements have high levels of cadmium. Zinc is cheap enough that one can afford to go with a reliable brand. One that tests each new batch.

And now we have Giovannucci again:

"We prospectively assessed post-diagnostic zinc supplementation in relation to prostate cancer survival among 5,788 men with nonmetastatic prostate cancer in the Health Professionals Follow-up Study (1986-2019)."

"During a median follow-up of 11 years, we documented 527 lethal prostate cancer events and 3,198 all-cause deaths. Fifteen percent of men reported zinc supplement use post-diagnosis.

"Compared to nonusers, post-diagnostic zinc supplement use was associated suggestively with a lower risk of lethal prostate cancer {18% less} and significantly with all-cause mortality {16% less}."

"The inverse association was mostly observed among men who used post-diagnostic zinc supplements of 1-24 mg/d (lethal prostate cancer: {45% less}; all-cause mortality: {23% less},"

"... while higher dosage did not show a lower risk."

"Conclusions: Post-diagnostic low-dose zinc supplement use among nonmetastatic prostate cancer patients was associated with lower risk of lethal prostate cancer and all-cause mortality."

[1] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/364...

[2] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/128...

[3] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/212...

[4] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/183...

[5] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/233...

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Teufelshunde

I do 30mg for other reasons so nice to know may be some benefit to this PC wise. Thanks.

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I am taking 50 mg per day of zinc citrate., and have been for years. Preaching to the choir...I would sing a song about zinc supplementation, but I was 3rd string in choir...

Thanks for posting, Patrick...

Fish

Thanks for posting.

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cujoe

Patrick, Several questions come to mind:

1. Once the prostate is removed, would the need/requirement for zinc be reduced? And if so by what amount?

2. Since zinc has also been indicated as beneficial for COVID, would that affect dosage requirements?

3. If using and ionic form, does that affect the target dosage?

4. Since zinc can inhibit inhibit copper uptake, how would that figure into dosing and/or copper supplementation? (I've been digging a bit into copper and PCa and seem to find that reducing copper to minimal levels needed for overall health would be a good thing ~= a higher zinc dosage? I am working on a Cu/PCa post that I expect will get done later this week.)

FWIW, I currently use both a tablet and liquid ionic form and target dosage of max 30 mg total per day.

Ciao - K9

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pjoshea13 in reply to cujoe

Mayo: "The recommended daily amount of zinc is 8 milligrams (mg) for women and 11 mg for adult men." Does that mean that the intact prostate needs about 3 mg? lol

Figuring out how much to add back in for tumor burden is beyond my current skills. I will stick with 50 mg, although I once figured that 25 mg might be sufficient. I will not go above 50 mg.

Your 30 mg is in that ballpark.

I would never supplement with copper. Essential for angiogenesis, so be wary.

Our house has copper pipes & the well water is slightly acidic, so I view copper as something of a pollutant. I suppose I should get that pH problem fixed.

Oysters are a good source of zinc, and I love them. However, copper levels can be high. I mean really high.

-Patrick

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