Hi all, I know there are some other posts on Dr Shehata, and I've been reading them all!! I know so many of you have described this research as going down a rabbit hole, and now I really know what you mean! I'm so confused!!
Has anyone NOT had a good outcome after seeing Dr Shehata?!! Just trying to get some realistic feedback! It's great I've seen so many positive stories, which really makes me think it is worth it.
But I do have a few questions and worries!
1. All the success seems to be for repeated miscarriages???! (we have repeated implantation failure, no pregnancies... Is it also likely to help this?)
2. Are Dr Shehata's tests v different to what they'd do at other clinics?
3. We need to move clinics anyway so thinks it probably the right move, but see that they don't actually do the transfers themselves, and we'd have to go to their satellite clinic, or a different one as well. So what do we do? Go to him for the advice and then choose a clinic? His satellite clinic doesn't actually seem to have any better outcomes than other places, so is it really that good?
Even if he finds something isn't the treatment likely to be steroids anyway or maybe steroids and intralipids?
4.is it really that wrong to take steroids if you don't have elevated NKC?
Sorry I feel like I'm just ranting right now rather than asking proper questions. I'm so confused and think we might end up spending so much money just having consultations at loads of clinics to see what they would do! I don't trust anyone, anymore, but seems Dr shehata is thr right way to go. So back to the original question really, has anyone NOT had a successful outcome with him?!!!!
Thanks so much for taking your time to read!
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I can't answer your other questions but I think I can help with number 4.
Basically, you don't want to take steroids if you don't have high NKC because in order for successful implantation to occur, your body actually needs to develop a heightened immune response and it then floods the uterine lining with immune cells in order to protect the developing fetus. This heightened immune response lasts for the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. The point of steroid treatment in women with high NKC is to bring their immune response down into the normal range so that the body doesn't accidentally attack the embryo, but the goal is not to suppress the immune response completely.
However, if you don't have high NKC and you take steroids, you can suppress your immune system to a point where that immune response necessary for implantation doesn't occur. This is a relatively recent study that discussed the heightened immune response necessary for implantation: science.org/doi/10.1126/sci...
That's really helpful to see soccerkt6 - I was about to say, my implantation specialist told me just last week that as I don't have elevated uterine nk levels, it wouldn't be good to just 'take steroids anyway'. She said it could actually have a negative effect and interfere with the normal processes, and I didn't question why/if there is data behind that, but good to see there is. I know others have taken steroids anyway, despite having 'normal' uNK levels, and felt it might have helped them, and so I'd asked her the question xx
Hi babe, I’ve messaged you but I’ll reply here for others to see also.
1. Yes the tests work for reoccurring implantation failure. Dr brosby (he’s the one who does the test) explains it all in your zoom consult with him.
2. The only way I can describe it is you’re in the stirrups and the duck lips go in, then a catheter goes in and then this thin plunger thing that he counts back to 10 on to get the specimen out. He pulls it, But to me it felt like a cork screw up there, it wasn’t very pleasant and he had to do it twice as he didn’t get enough the first time. The pain did go away once it was done, just abs bit of cramping. The specimen then went in about 5 jars, looked liked courgetti with 🩸 on it.
3. UHCW do iVF, but if you need the steroids they write you up a prescription (I think). On the HFEA website UHCW had a very good rating for 38yo.
4. They don’t prescribe steroids if you don’t have elevated NK cells, I read something that someone said they were given steroids when they didn’t need them and it didn’t work, so they switched clinics and the next clinic stripped everyone back.
I hope this helps, we’re changing clinics, most likely to UHCW but will know after our zoom in a couple of weeks.
That would be great thanks. Everywhere seems very booked up so I think it will be May before I get an appointment anywhere!I did laugh at the duck lips!!!!
Hi lovely, I am sorry to hear about your implantation failure - I am dealing with the same. It is so frustrating isn't it. I will send you a PM with a Doctor recommendation that has no waiting list, if it helps x
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