What next?

[Guinny01]

So we tested early bfn and tested on the day and no surprise still a bfn. This is obviously our first ever round and whether we did something wrong I’ll never know but obviously age is a factor. My question is what next we paid for multicycle and we have a frozen 6 day blasto so do we go straight into another fresh round or try with our frozen ? I’m aware that at my age 41 we really need to be quick on our decisions. Any advice anyone else in this position ? Xx

[Hope823]

Hi, we also paid for multicycle, to be more specific, 3 cycles. With Access Fertility. They said we need to use all frozen embryos before start sresh cycle. Unfortunately, same as you, this time last week I took and early test and it was bfp so on the day I was not surprised. I am also wondering if I did anything wrong that embryo did not stick to make things worse, we dont have any frozen embryos as from 6 embryos we only had 1 blastocyst and nothing else good anough to freeze. So I have no other option like start again. What did you decide?

[Guinny01 in reply to Hope823]

So do frozen count as one of your cycles? We have our frozen which was a day 6 we had 2 implanted and neither stayed. I found the whole cycle really hard going on my body whether that’s because I’m 41 I’m not sure or if it’s generally that hard on everyone? So we think we will talk to the clinic tomorrow and go straight ahead with the next cycle as soon as possible time is of the essence and I think I’ll probably talk myself out of it if I don’t just go for it. What’s your next steps ? Xx

[Hope823 in reply to Guinny01]

One completed cycle is when fresh embryo + all frozen embryos have been used. That's per Access Fertility definition. Only when there are no other embryos left that can be transferred only then allowed to start injecting again. I am not sure what program you are on. Well our next consultation is in one month. I will have to inject again and start all over. Do you work? How do you cope with doing ivf and work

[Guinny01 in reply to Hope823]

I work full time and have been taking half days for the scans and full day holidays for the ec and transfer I have managed to work from home on occasional days as well I’m thinking next transfer I’ll take a week off and see how that goes. It’s been a bit of a struggle at work as it’s mostly men and me being hormonal is a nightmare but without the normality of work taking my mind off things I’m not sure I’d manage. How about you.?? I’m going to call the clinic tomorrow and discuss the next steps and hopefully move as quick as we can and go from there. I’m hoping they’ll do another fresh cycle due to my age but it’s possible I may have to use the frozen emby first

[Hope823 in reply to Guinny01]

I was furloughed for a month but am back to work tomorrow. I asked if I could go back as want to take my mind off things. I looked through all your posts and it looks like we are in a very similar boat. Both had 1st IVF cycle, embryo transfer, bfn etc... all the best in your journey. My next appointment is in 1 month. Xx

[Hope823 in reply to Hope823]

In your post you have also asked if you wander if you did something wrong that your embryos did not stick. I also thought about it. I know now that you are not supposed to have ibuprofen if you need a painkillers, the just paracetamol. I did not know it then, I had 1 ibuprofen. I did not have any fish, no red meat, no raw eggs. I drank a lot of fresh pineapple juice...but later friend said this could trigger embryo not sticking...not sure its true or not. But next time I wont drink it.

[Guinny01 in reply to Hope823]

I have to admit I sat and thought about everything I could of done wrong and nothing came to mind maybe this one just wasn’t meant to be as much as I think and worry over it and ask myself and hubby what have we done wrong it doesn’t change the fact. I’m hoping to get a answer from the clinic tomorrow when we can start again. Here’s hoping we both have better luck next time and our journeys start a new direction xx

[Weareback2 in reply to Guinny01]

Ladies you have done nothing wrong. Ivf is a game of luck and there is no gauratee. WhwWhen i did my cyles i was surprised how low the success rates were. I just assumed it would be much higher, however were told

The success rate was about 35%. Good luck and please don't blame yourself. You did nothing wrong xx

[BBHH1]

If you can use the cycles, starting another fresh while banking your excess embryos will give you the best chances of getting a baby!

[Guinny01 in reply to BBHH1]

Thank you that’s what I’m hoping x

[AndreiaTrigoRN]

Because of age, it’s a good idea to stimulate and freeze all and if possible PG test before transfer. There’s some cool info that might help here efp.clinic/course/module-1/...

[Guinny01 in reply to AndreiaTrigoRN]

Thank you x

[Purpledoggy]

If are able to do another fresh (ie depending on the terms of your package) I suggest doing that and keeping the frosties on ice, so to speak. At our age, every month counts for egg quality and age-related success depends on age you were when the eggs were collected. Have you had your WTF appointment yet? This is something you can discuss with them xx

[Guinny01 in reply to Purpledoggy]

Thank you for your reply I’m due to ring them today as this all happened over the weekend. I had my eggs collected at 41 and these are the same ones currently finding it harder to deal with the today xx

[Purpledoggy in reply to Guinny01]

No one prepares you for how hard the days following a negative test are. Aside from the immense sadness of the test itself, there are the physical effects of the progesterone and coming off the progesterone. The first week after my OTD (first cycle, ended late Jan) I was a complete mess - severe insomnia, night sweats, uncontrollable crying. It's basically a mini post-natal depression. But, after a week, I think my natural hormones started to balance and I came to terms with what happened, and after 2 weeks I was pretty much back to normal. All I can say is be extra extra kind to yourself, ask for lots of cuddles, and know you aren't losing your marbles and it will pass. xx

[Guinny01 in reply to Purpledoggy]

Thank you I think once I’ve spoken to them and we have a plan it might make me feel better and able to look forward as when we got our negative I was adamant I wasn’t doing it again but now I feel ready to discuss. Thank you for your words of advice it’s really appreciated xxx

[ToughCOOKIE78]

I’d leave your frozen embryo and do a fresh cycle with PGS testing (due to age, it’s highly likely your embryos are abnormal) ...also, if it’s something that you would consider I’d start thinking about egg donation, maybe as a back up...waiting lists in the U.K. are enormous! Good luck hun xxx

[Guinny01 in reply to ToughCOOKIE78]

Thank you I will discuss toda with them. Donor eggs are a no no hubby won’t have it. Wish we had started this earlier but we just couldn’t fund it previously. Good luck to you too xxx

[ToughCOOKIE78 in reply to Guinny01]

My hubby didn’t want to do egg donation either, but after some time talking and researching it he came around 😃dont give up on your dreams 🍀🤞🏻❤️Xx