8dp 5dt - negative hpt

[Millbanks]

I'm not normally an early tester but I just felt like it hadn't worked this time and really wanted to know. And I was right. Bit Fat Negative. This is our 3rd transfer and just feeling totally defeated xx

[F_J_762301]

Hey millbanks,

So sorry that it looks like it hasn't worked for you this time it's so hard to go through multiple failed transfers. Maybe wait a few days and test again just incase? I always test a day or two early to prepare myself for possible bad news. Be kind to yourself, cry, let it all out, i normally spend a few days just in the house in my pjs watching films and cuddling my dog. Sending big hugs xx

[Millbanks in reply to F_J_762301]

Thank you. I just don't know what to do now - 3 fails just feels like too much. I will definitely take some time to feel crap, then regroup xx

[F_J_762301 in reply to Millbanks]

I completely get it. I was gutted after my 3rd transfer failed too. I had always declined a follow up previously but after I had greived (because it is a greiving process) I accepted a follow up because I wanted answers, and they did a few extra investigations. I got a really good consultant who I saw for 2 consecutive appointments (on my request). I think after 3 failures (plus 1 mc in my case) you are classed as recurring implantation failure. We both had karyotype testing which came back clear. I also had thyroid and blood clotting tests (also clear). I'm not sure if you are funded or private but I had all this done on the NHS. We were then offered to go down the PGD testing route , ERA testing and NK cells ( at our own cost). On the advice of the consultant I liked we chose ERA and currently awaiting the results. Hope this maybe helps you a little bit. Xx

[Millbanks in reply to F_J_762301]

Thank you. It really is a grieving process for sure. I am keen to have an ERA test. We’ll do karaotype testing too next cycle. I’m thinking maybe thrown in immune tests too. It’s a minefield for sure xxx

[MrsH17]

Sorry to hear you got a negative today 😢 clinics would say it’s too early to test.

I hope this is the case for you and if not then you can find the strength to do it again as I have seen it happen for so many on here after many fails xxx

[Millbanks in reply to MrsH17]

Thank you - I'm beyond gutted. I can't imagine it changing now - it was start white. I know we'll get over it and try again but I'm so tired of feeling like this. Hope all is progressing well for you xx

[Hidden]

Im so sorry Millbanks 💔 sending u a big hug and praying for your miracle x

[Cinderella5]

Urrghhh Im so sorry to hear that Millbanks! It is soooo hard, completely sympathise with you.....crapest feeling in the world! It could still change but again it may not which of course you already know. Hugs. I know its not for now but have you ever thought about an ERA test?xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Cinderella5]

It’s the worst. I feel broken. I don’t understand 🤯 we have 1 more frostie which we’ll try next month. Then I think we’ll throw everything at it: fresh cycle, PGT testing, ERA and if that doesn’t work then it might be the end of the road. Xxx

[Cinderella5 in reply to Millbanks]

I know what you mean, the unfairness of it all......its all just shit isn't it?! I wasn't a fan of PGT but the ERA did throw something up for us and I know a few others that it has helped too hun. ts not cheap but sometimes it may just be that missing link.xx

[Millbanks in reply to Cinderella5]

It really is shit shit shit. Why weren’t you a fan of PGT? I know I ovulate later thank most so maybe the ERA is the way forward xxx

[Cinderella5 in reply to Millbanks]

I guess I just worry about the them taking the biopsy as they are so delicate and precious....what if it damages the embryo etc (I know that most places have the experience to do this properly) but just doesn't sit right with me but that's just me.xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Cinderella5]

I do know what you mean. It does seem invasive xxx

[Chel91]

So sorry hun! It's just so unfair!! Hoping it is too early of course, but I understand that you don't think it's likely to change. Will be thinking of you 💕 xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Chel91]

Thanks lovely, I hope so but I can’t imagine it as I feel nothing at all. Hope you’re doing ok. What’s next steps for you? Xx

[Chel91 in reply to Millbanks]

I'll be starting a fresh cycle (short protocol) in 2 weeks thankfully, can't wait to get started again. It's felt like ages so I'm pretty excited for now xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Chel91]

That's good, I find that having next steps planned out really helps me deal with the failed transfers.... Wishing you lots of luck xxx

[Chel91 in reply to Millbanks]

Same for me, it's so hard, but I have a lot of hope that one transfer will work one day! 🤞 Wishing you loads of luck too hun, and hoping you get your miracle very soon!! 💗 xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Chel91]

We will!! I'm certain of it xxx

[hannahkc]

Oh sweetheart, so sorry to read it's looking negative, the 2ww is such a long time to be on tenterhooks.

Crossing everything in case it does change 🤞🤞you've still a few days to OTD! Xx

[Millbanks in reply to hannahkc]

Thank you for your kind words. It’s the cruelest journey isn’t it. 2 weeks feels like 2 months when everything is so uncertain. Have you still decided that you’ll go no further with your ivf? It breaks me heart to think of people ending this awful time with no baby xxx

[hannahkc in reply to Millbanks]

Yeah, never say never but v unlikely, we do have a review next week and a counselling session with our clinic, so we can make a more informed decision, but it would take some convincing for me to go through another EC! Last round in December 2019 we only got the 1 embryo so didn't fill me with confidence to try again, but we'll see what the doc says!

[Millbanks in reply to hannahkc]

Aww it must be a tough decision. Counselling has been amazing for me. I think it helps to talk it all through. Lots of love xxx

[FrancyItaly]

I hope you just tested too early and you will have your BFP in a few days! ✨

[Millbanks in reply to FrancyItaly]

Thank you my lovely, I doubt it but we can hope! Xx

[Lisichka]

It sucks, Millbanks. It’s the crappiest feeling in the world. Take the time you need to process it and be kind to yourself.

I’ve had 4 transfers (with 6 top quality blasts) and none resulted in a baby. It’s hard.

So for the next cycle, I went all out: did autoimmune testing, karotype, genetic testing for me and husband, PGS testing and ERA (showed I need 1 full day extra of progesterone). We also changed the FET protocol this 5th time. Added prednisone, baby aspirin and antibiotics. So what I’m trying to say is that there’re more tests you can do and more tweaks to the protocol.

In the meantime, look after yourself xx thinking of you 🌸

[Millbanks in reply to Lisichka]

Thanks so much for your message. Yes I think we’ll go full steam ahead with those tests next cycle. I think it’s likely that I’m pre-receptive as I’ve always had progesterone issues and it’s a hunch... but I guess we’ll find out. Can I ask, out of 10 embryos tested you only got 1 normal? When do you start you next FET? Xxx

[Lisichka in reply to Millbanks]

We actually got 10 genetically normal embryos and 1 usable mosaic out of 15 we sent to the lab. I was shocked to be honest (because of all of the failures I expected to have poor quality embryos). But I did prepare for the second cycle with testing and supplements, while the first cycle I did I didn’t do anything.

We just did a transfer today actually so will be interesting to see if it sticks this time!

It sounds like a good plan to do all the testing, do the ERA and see if there are other recommendations that your doctor may have. You’ve got this xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Lisichka]

Thanks lovely, eeek good luck!! I really hope it works for you. So can you still use the normal embryos? Xxx

[Lisichka in reply to Millbanks]

Thank you! I so hope that this transfer 5 works, it’s been such a tough (and expensive) journey.

Re embryos, we sent ours for PGS testing and 10 were normal (when they’re deemed “normal” they allegedly have a higher success rate but again, plenty of people get bfns with them) and 5 were abnormal, they had chromosomes missing which meant that I would have miscarried them or it would have been a bfn.

I think that after 3 transfers, it’s worth considering PGS testing, have a chat with your doctor. There are pros and cons but more pros because the process is pretty good now compared to even 5 years ago.

Wishing you the best on your journey, we’re all in it together xxx happy to chat further ❤️

[Millbanks in reply to Lisichka]

Thank you! That’s really helpful. It’s a tricky decision because if none are normal then we’re stumped. 10 embryos is a brilliant amount, the most we’ve ever got is 4...

everything crossed for you! Let us know how you get on xxxx

[Lisichka in reply to Millbanks]

4 is still really good! So you have 1 left then?

I think it’s worthwhile doing all the tests plus ERA before next FET and then see what happens. Also see if they suggest any changes to the protocol, like adding low dose aspirin, low grade steroid etc. maybe also check thyroid and Vit D while you’re doing all the blood tests.

Thinking of you xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Lisichka]

Yes hoping to do FET next month. I’m already on thyroxine, vit D and aspirin but I will definitely have a talk with them and see if there’s anything else we can add. I’ll also see if I can start the mock cycle on this bleed... although it might be worth giving my body a month off. 💖 xxx

[Angels2us in reply to Lisichka]

Hi Lisa just reading your post , about different protocol , i have ask for antibiotics this time too only because I think I did get a infection last time I am sure of it got brown discharge with strong smell , so do you take the antibiotics straight after the transfer?

I am to on steroids, blood thinners injections also 2xlubion and 1 cyclogest plus 3 x elleste solo, tablets , but this time because I found out I have a lactose intolerance after my last transfer I have been prescribed a gel to use . Xxxx

Just wanted to know when to take antibiotics xx

[Lisichka in reply to Angels2us]

The protocol is to have them 5 days before and 2 days after the transfer. I honestly don’t know if I need them but I’m willing to try.

I’m also only doing injections this time - progesterone every day twice a day. Pessaries weren’t working out for me, I wasn’t absorbing them well.

Good luck xx

[Angels2us in reply to Lisichka]

Ok thanks xx

[hifer]

So sorry hun. It’s such a devastating feeling. We’ve not long gone through our second failed round so I completely understand how you feel. Sending you loads of love to regroup and then dust down. Go really easy on yourself in the meantime though xx

[Millbanks in reply to hifer]

I’m so sorry to hear that. I know there are a few ladies who get a negative at this stage but go on to get a positive, but I know in my heart of hearts that won’t happen for me.

Yes will take a break and have some fun. Covid hasn’t helped as I feel so bored and stuck at home so fingers crossed we don’t get locked down again.

Are you starting another fresh round or do you have frosties? Sending love to you too xxx

[Hidden]

I’m so sorry if I got your hopes up a few days ago - really hope things change but also sending you a mahoosive hug in case it doesn’t - you are right this whole thing is totally shit xx

[Millbanks in reply to Hidden]

Awww don’t worry lovely. Without hope why would we even be doing this! I doubt it’ll change but we’ll see. Hope you’re doing ok xxx

[Shirazlover2013]

Oh no 😢 I’m so sorry millbanks. I know it’s such a let down and it’s natural you’re feeling defeated right now. Sending massive hugs xx

[Millbanks in reply to Shirazlover2013]

Thanks lovely, it’s so rubbish but I’m ok. We’ll keep trying. Hope you’re doing well xxx

[Millbanks in reply to Millbanks]

All things considered... xxx

[Shirazlover2013 in reply to Millbanks]

I’m a bit up and down to be honest. After so many failures it’s not quite as simple as just having another go. So lots of consultations and talking through ideas including adoption and taking time out (again). How are you doing today? Xx

[Millbanks in reply to Shirazlover2013]

I know what you mean. There are so many variables aren’t there! I think we’ll try an ERA next. Hope you’re feeling ok xxx

[SparkleCock]

Oh shit I’m so sorry honey. Sending lots of love xx

[Millbanks in reply to SparkleCock]

Ugh xx