post meal counting is 173.4, i am not taking medicines is it ok

[gknair25]

[venkatesh5]

maintain below 130

[pskshetty]

It is better to maintain your P.P Blood Sugar within 120. To maintain this, it is better to take medicine in order to avoid risk.You can try some physical exercises like Morning walk.

[drquaza]

bring it back to 140 mgdl by moderate exercize or if your waiste more 40 eanches take metpharmine after consulting your doctor

[Hidden]

You can bring it down with out medication with vigorous exercise,active and stress free life style and avoiding sweet foods.Also watch your weight,

[vraman7]

1.Please check your blood sugar early morning Fasting (Without taking Coffee or Tea).It should be below 100..90 mts.after break fast take the reading of blood sugar it should be below 140. Take HbA1c (That is glycenated blood sugar level average for last 3 months) If it is less than 6 Very good.In parallel you have to check your lipid profile (Test for cholestrol) creatin level, micro albumin. Then you should visit a diabetologist every three months.If you are in India "Thyrocare" blood collecting centres are there in many cities. World's highest sophisticated blood testing lab. at Mumbai. They will call in your house and take readings.If you are at Chennai,Bangalore, or Madurai Dr.Mohan's diabetic centre is the most reliable consulting centre.For any help you can contact [e-mail]

[drquaza]

dont warry much 173.4 mg dl is not daibetic above200mg dl is stamped as daibetic ..but itis glucose intolerance so reduce the sugar contentes or reduce diet 1l4 of your diet and do 30 minutes exercize even after this not come down,if your waiste more than 40 eanches you can simply switc on to metpharmine after consulting your doctor

[ShooterGeorge]

No wheat/rice? What a pity!

[ShooterGeorge]

Very correct. Either it is there or it is not there. No via media like Pre-diabetic, bla bla bla

[ShooterGeorge]

PPBS 173 is not OK. You have to bring it down. Experts say Diabetes is PROGRESSIVE. So if you do not make earnest effort to make it regressive, it will keep growing and result in SECONDARY & TERTIARY COMPLICATIONS.

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Diabetes is a fundamental disorder. It is comparable with low voltage in an electric circuit. In both cases all connected subsystems will under-perform and will fail in due course. Diab impairs the glucose (SUGAR) & oxygen supply to ALL CELLS of the patient. You cannot compensate the resultant weakness with liquor, food or medicines.

A DIABETESE PATIENT (also known as A DIABETIC) need NOT starve. PROPER or APPROPRIATE food can be eaten EVEN FULL STOMACH THRICE DAILY! Try to understand diabetes & conquor it.

I was diabetic from 2006; but NOT diabetic from 2009. I studied Diabetes thoroughly, because it was to solve MY problem.

Do you want to see my experience and blood sugar history from 2006 to 2013? Those are reported at: appropedia.org/Diabetes_mel... If you want only MODUS OPERANDI, GO TO appropedia.org/Diabetes_mel...

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Please report your future experience (good or bad) here for the benefit of others.

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[ShooterGeorge]

You are right. But I did all without any medicine.

[ShooterGeorge]

My A1c is 5.9 on four quarterly tests & my blood sugar level is not progressive in spite of THREE RICE MEALS OF 300 gm DAILY !

[ShooterGeorge]

Hi anup,

I do not agree with your view that diabetes cannot be cured.

I am unable to agree with you on interpretation of OGTT result also.The OVERSHOOT at 1 hr is quite NORMAL A BEHAVIOR IN ANY DYNAMIC SYSTEM. IT WILL BE SO IN ANY HEALTHY PERSON ALSO. Usually healthy persons do not under go OGTT & hence it is left unnoticed.

Once Prof. Krishnamurthy of College of Engineering, Trivandrum while discussing my diab cure told that Control System Text Books of Engineering show the insulin capturing the glucose variation as the best example of the dynamic behavior of a GOOD (OR IDEAL) CONTROL SYSTEM.

In a good control system AN OVER SHOOT followed by an UNDERSHOOT are normal behavior. That is why 2 hour & 2.5 or 3 hour readings are taken.

If you can get a healthy NON-DIABETIC person to undergo an OGTT you can confirm this yourself. The glucometer reading at 2hr being 114 confirm my view that you are NOT diabetic now.

You are NOT Type 1, I suppose. I ask this because you speak of Dr Bernstein. We have to test Jenny Ruhl & Dr Bernstein to find out whether they are CURED. The Type2 person can be cured. The type 1 we have to see; I won't say impossible till I confirm because to me also doctors & other patients told that it is impossible.

Yesterday after lunch with 300 gm cooked rice I ate half a ripe very sweet papaya (about 500 gm) and tested 2HR PPBS in glucometer. It was 110 mg/dl.

Aiming for lower A1c is good. One will feel stronger & healthier. The rabbit thing was the translation of a Malayalam proverb. NOT for literal meaning. Sorry for that.

Please respond. I want to pursue.

[ShooterGeorge]

Hi Anup,

Thank you for the detailed response. Visited the site rajeun.net/gtt.html . Very informative site. Thank you for taking me there.

I shall give a detailed response after thinking about the data you have presented.

[ShooterGeorge]

Hi Anup,

Part 2 begin:

Now coming to the OGTT values & BS shooting beyond 200 mark:

1. The result of 25/3/2012 is OK for comparison with that of your wife, but old enough to be considered as obsolete to assess the present condition of your Pancreas.

2. In some aspects your pancreas seems to be better than that of wife's. For example difference in FBS was only 5 mg/dl but difference at end of GTT (2 hours) is 12 mg/dl; an increas, by 140% or to 2.4 times. Another one is that when your BS rose to 150 mg/dl in 30 minutes, her BS shot to 167 mg/dl. Here the difference is much higher (from 5 mg/dl to 17 mg/dl, increase to 3.4 times or 340 %). At one hr & 1.5 hr your pancreas show poorer performance (for which I see some reasons) but at 2 hr your pancreas show much better performance!

3. I have plotted 2 graphs using these two sets of results because pictures speak much more than numbers/words. From the graphs I see that if you had not tested at 75 minutes and instead had calculated from the values at 60 & 90 minutes you would have got 187 mg/dl instead of 208 mg/dl. That means more intermediate measurements during GTT gives better clarity & accuracy.

4. Another & most important point is that I can contest the argument of your wife's blood sugar never going beyond 140 at any stage.

5. From my OGTT graphs of September 2009 it was observed that the real blood sugar peak during OGTT occurs around 45 minutes and neither at half an hour nor at one hour. This is clearly observable in your wife's case & I can explain it with the help of a diagram. For this either you draw a graph using the blood sugar values and corresponding times of your wife's OGTT or look at my OGTT graphs at appropedia.org/File:GTT_Gra... (File:GTT_Graph_Diabetes_Cured_040.jpg). Look at the graph of my half-hourly readings. If you extend the line segments between zero & 30 minutes and between 90 & 60 minutes you will find that they intersect around 45 minute point (thst is between 40-50 minute points). The correctness of my observation I confirmed during my 3rd OGTT last year by testing BS at 45 minutes also.

The values of third OGTT are:

Date 29 03 2012

Time BS Value

07:08 -- 96 FBS

07:22 ---------- Drank 75gm Glucose in water.

07:54 -- 199

08:06 -- 217-- checked this to verify that peak occurs around 45 minutes.

08:24 -- 210

08:53 -- 195

09:23 -- 125

Part 2 end.

[ShooterGeorge]

Hi Anup,

Part 3 begin:

During OGTT if you test at 40, 45 & 50 minutes you will get a different picture. If you test at 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, & 55 minutes also, you will get a smoother curve closer to reality.

So now from the graph of your wife's OGTT BS my observation is that the peak value would have occured around 40 minutes and the value would have been around 180. Taking your logic of 15% error, her blood sugar peak would have been 180 - 27 = 153. If it is true (which I am sure) will you say that your wife is diabetic? If yes, I tell you, most of the people will have to be classified as diabetic.

Consider the BS values at 1, 1.5 & 2Hr of OGTT of you both.

Which pancreas is doing better job? Who is diabetic? Why your pancreas brought down your BS by 127 mg/dl (to 102) in one Hr when her pancreas brought down her BS by only 46 mg/dl ( & left at 114) in the same duration? Please try to see facts in an optimistic perspective.

Now please tell, shall I suggest you a carb-diet which some people call GEM Diet? I am sure it will wipe out & clear your doubt about cure/curability of your diabetes. Why live the life of a diabetic when you are not?