I am a retired cardiologist who has had Parkinson’s since March 2011. Recently I had a hypotensive episode after about of constipation. I was admitted to the hospital and found to have severe left atrial enlargement and two valves with mild regurgitation. I had received in the past approximately 4 to 5 vaccinations for Covid. I did have Covid at one point, which is just amounted to some nasal congestion for one day.
From a heart perspective, this places me at an increased risk for a stroke, atrial fibrillation as well as multiple other problems.
Cardiac wise, I am asymptomatic, in addition, one of my cardiac muscle enzymes is elevated.
Individuals with Parkinson’s are at an increased risk left atrial enlargement, atrial fibrillation, and other myopathies
I feel that all individuals who received the Covid vaccine and/or have Parkinson’s should have a baseline ECG, cardiac muscle enzymes, and an echocardiogram
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You believe your heart issues are related to covid? Which covid, SARS covid-1 (back in 2002) or SARS covid 2 ("COVID 19"), or MERS 2012 (since you have been around a while and so has your PD)... Because you also mentioned immunizations but actually made no actual attributions about either COVID or vaccination. It occurs to ask because people may quite on their own fill in the blanks you left vacant. Any thoughts there?
Ok. I was just wondering whether you're making a point about larger issues or were rather just being very narrowly focused on what you would like to be doing in your own case going forward. Still not entirely clear, but thank you for answering at all. Other people reading these pages a generator feeling about vaccine or no vaccine, and since that is liable to affect lives, I thought it wasn't such a bad thing to ask for a little clarity. And as for that, because some of us happened to realize that the ACE receptor, a definite target of covid-19 and perhaps all of its subsequent variants, and that receptor being a component of a number of cardiac tissues, are you suggest about EKG and ECG are really good ideas for everybody, especially since from what you seem to be saying it may be possible to have cardiac complications or disease from an infection even if you have no symptoms.
I would say my goal ismainly to make people aware of the potential silent cardiomyopathy that I discovered in myself. I just feel testing should be performed in patients that have Parkinson’s, have had Covid and/or the vaccine and boosters.
As a physician, I am certainly in favor of vaccinations for prevention of multiple diseases. But, cautious testing must be performed
Also, in my case the Covid infection might have been mild due to chronic treatment with amantadine
Really? Because that's not what he said, he didn't say that. In fact, he he didn't say that in his answer so he has not said it twice now. So how do you know?
Prior infections can influence outcomes down the line especially when additional infections later on that are similar follow. It was diagnosed when he could have been infected with two other viruses in the past, at least one of which was similar. It also matters that he mentioned vaccines but had no comment on why he was mentioning the vaccines, and I don't know about your country but in this country that's extremely controversial, especially since a non-medical person with brain infections himself and a politically ambitious crank, RFK Jr., has been nominated to take over government medical operations in the US. Well, guy heart health says he's a cardiologist and covid-19 does happen to access the ACE receptor which is in the heart, but there can be a weakening of one system when one has had a similar infection, which many people had and were also aware of which was also a related infection to covid-19... it was a similar Spike protein virus named covid, a SARS covid Spike protein virus THAT APPEARED IN MANY PEOPLE in 2002. He could have been infected. He could also have been infected by that other major virus that happened in 2012... he has mentioned here that it was infected in 2012, but his prior post says here that he was having PD in 2012 and 2011, and he's a doctor, ironically enough, heart specialist whose heart complication was asymptomatic but diagnosed (possibly after) he had had opportunity for two major spike protein infections Plus several vaccines. That's a pretty foggy picture and I thought it's reasonable to ask about it a little bit since he said absolutely nothing about that question, and it matters to somebody's life if they listen closely and try to extract some kind of what to do about it in their own case. Now there are a lot of people who are very skeptical about vaccines and RFK has put out misinformation on many of them, including the same position the science fraud Andrew wakeman did about vaccines and autism . I think RFK is a very dangerous crank who is about to be in a position to harm a great many people, but a lot of people seem to have a similar position to him. So I am reasonable to ask whether he is sending a message about vaccines, or not, does it matter, for my own information... So what does your intrusion have do with any of that?
I asked so I could ascertain why he didn't mention it in the first place because careful people know about how you say something without making a commitment, if only people will actually listen to what you say, people who speak carefully do so for a reason. Unless they say no when they are asked a follow up for simple clarification. What's your objection to that? .
Well now he's answered, simply about his own particular desire for a service. Now a careful speaker, which you must be if you're a doctor, I know from having had to do that myself many times and many years, and also seeing colleagues do it and also seeing professionals do it, because it's something you have to know if you're going to talk to anybody because it has to do with professional responsibility and ethics, so it's not a matter of casualness. Because he's a trained professional and they say certain things for a reason and they stop short of saying things for a reason.
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So is he saying don't get vaccinated? Or is he sang vaccines are good, but a new variant got to him, and that is what is responsible for his heart failure and myocarditis, just talking about getting his own treatment and dimension of vaccines was frivolous m you can answer this for him? This is actually controversial and it has to be answered in my opinion, or you could be wrong and being wrong means harm could follow if one takes action. So it matters what he thinks. If he'll say, but he doesn't have to. What do you care if I ask a question anyway? Why is that, are you a cardiologist too and making a medical judgment on his behalf? I don't know any doctor who would do so based on only saying something here in this website comment exchange. .
Next, his mentioning that he is a cardiologist means people may attribute some weight to anything he says...may have some weight. Reasonable. So it matters what he says, exactly, until he says no don't take anything I say that way..He mentioned vaccines, maybe it's because he has an opinion about them, but if you don't actually state an opinion, then it's an open question... Does he think the vaccines had anything to do with causing his heart damage? Hundreds of thousands of people were harmed and many many thousands died because they listen to people who are skeptical of vaccines, much less a cardiologist who is skeptical of vaccines, so it matters to ask. Does he think the vaccines had something to do with his systemic weakness or his heart disease that followed? Why should we assume anything when he (or she) didn't mention it in the first place? And if he is not talking about the vaccines having anything to do with it, then it's important to know that so that somebody reading this doesn't mistake what he said and interpret what he said as something he actually did not mean to say. Is he one of those who are saying don't get vaccinated, or did he just throw that in there to have some background? The question remains, and I think it is a vital one, whether he thinks the problem was the vaccines the damage his heart, or getting covid that damaged his heart. . What do you care if I ask?
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Meanwhile as a healthcare professional of some 35 years independent practice, I can't ask a question? You need to tell me to shut up do you? Why? He put up a post. But I'm not supposed to ask a question on rather significant omission that leaves a question or two vacant, that I think is relevant to people who are going to take it seriously because he's also a doctor. Is it that you have a boundary problem and that is why you feel empowered to read his mind and then tell me what is meaning? Or are you assuming that he can't speak for himself and that you are the one to say what's in his mind concerning the omission he made? I was just asking a question, and he answered in a similarly vague manner, but he did answer so maybe that is the extent that he's going to answer. That's fine with me, the answer speaks for itself, (same omission in fact), he didn't answer my question and just made a statement. He's entitled to say what he wants and we're entitled to take it at face value, including now, including any continued omission. So what's the big deal? Except that you were crossing boundaries when you decide on your own to speak for him, and second then to tell me to shut up. Maybe you should take another look at the policy here at this website.
I had the flu and covid injection a few days ago. I was sick as a dog for two days, not eating or drinking or anything. My wife had the same injections a few days earlier. She never reacted seriously post-injection. We're both 69 in decent health. She has valvular disease controlled with meds. I wonder whether my reaction to the shots is a good thing or not. My guess is the body is responding vigorously to potential pathogens. And at the same time it worries me that my wife doesn't have a similar reaction to the same injections. But we're different; Now and then I stop coffee. And the result is a week of horrific headache and nausea. When my wife does the same thing she doesn't even get a mild headache.
"My guess is the body is responding vigorously to potential pathogens."
That's my understanding too. And individuals respond differently enough that a sample size of one is meaningless for the purpose of trying to derive conclusions about a given population of hundreds, thousands, or millions.
Hello HealthyHeart7 . . . I have it on my schedule to get my fourth Covid vaccine shot this week. Now, with the Pfizer Paxlovid available as an early treatment could one pass on the Covid vaccination as Paxlovid is now available!
I was always pro vaccine, however, some of the people that work in these pharmaceutical companies are criminals, I cannot tell you what to do, however, even prior to getting my results I was advised to avoid any further Covid boosters by an infection disease physician.
yes it is possible it could be much worse. Had I not gotten the vaccine but once again, my only purpose is to consider screening people for cardiomyopathy if they had the virus, had the vaccine or have Parkinson’s
That's worrying. All the more so as I see you are likely taking the heart healthy supplements such as Melatonin, COQ10 and Vitamin d2/k3 (and the latter should reduce the impact of bad Covid to near zero). My triple-vaccinated brother was diagnosed with a leaky heart valve and I have 2 vaccinated friends (in their 50's) had serious heart issues since the rollout.
There are other variants of covid not addressed by a vaccine, and some variants of covid can infect you (and re-infect you) after a vaccine has worn its protection off, and other factors not related to covid this time around that can have an impact on history. So it's not logical or reasonable to conclude from a tiny sample involving coincidence that vaccines have anything to do with causing heart disease, especially since covid virus and other previous Spike protein SARS viruses that we have been exposed to in the past and at least the SARS 2 virus (which hit in 2019 but was not the first SARS virus) and is a relative of the one that caused the pandemic (there was a sars virus that hit in 2002, a relative of the SARS virus that caused this pandemic... I don't know if that virus from 2002 also affected our ACE receptor) targets the ACE receptor (which is prevalent in both one's lungs and in several places in one's heart). So it can cause damage which continues on past the primary infection and that damage may manifest later in very significant ways... But maybe previous SARS infections we have been exposed to also have had some contributing effect.
Corona virus got its name because under the electron microscope it looks like a jeweled crown. The jewels are sites where the virus attaches to the cells that treat disease. The jewels could also be the 'Spikes' that Marion talks about. If there are antibodies already floating around in the blood stream they will congregate and attack the virus. it's a lot more complicated than that but that's the theory.
For at least ten years I've self-treated myself using "Autohemotherapy". (AHT) I draw blood from my arm and quickly inject it into a thigh muscle. The body treats the injection as a foreign invader and mounts an immune response, I got into the habit of injecting myself after being dx'd with MS. Many autoimmune diseases can be managed with AHT. Now I have Parkinson's Disease which many believe to be an autoimmune condition. So every month or so I self-treat using AHT.
Years ago I was a practicing Veterinarian. I found diseases where standard treatment wasn't enough. But by adding alternative treatments to the standard treatments cures would happen. Not just AHT, I also used acupuncture and ozone.
Yes that is what I was referring to regarding those virus proteins that such viruses use to attack and inject their target hosts. HIV is another example . "Coronavirus" is a related term that refers somewhat generically or informally (because of appearance) to an envelope ("crown") around the virus which also happens to surround the spike proteins (jewels I guess but "spikes" definitely, as they function as injectors) l within it. Same-same.
Thank you for sharing your experience and recommendations as a cardiologist heartinmotion . My husband who has pd had two TIA’s within a year of getting a booster and his cardiologist did a bunch of testing which all came out very good but they still put him on Lipitor and baby aspirin to prevent further events. I’ve had Covid twice, now suffering long covid, and the vaccine a couple of times but I’m not able to take baby aspirin due to stomach problems. Would something natural like vitamin E work just as well to minimize my risk of clotting or other cardiac complications?
Boyfriend diagnosed with PD almost two years ago, using leva and carba dopa medicines. had COVID last year and now has been diagnosed with Atrial Fibrillation. Doctor can't say what the cause is, but he is now scheduled for AFib surgery next month as he has had many "episodes" of fast heart rate, light-headedness, loss of balance, fatigue" and the doc put him on beta blockers which helped and then put him on a heart monitor but so many episodes even with beta blockers he needs surgery. So many things can be attributed to PD! hard to tease out what c an be helped now to ease these related issues.....
As someone who had a heart attack t 43 years old, with no family history, I feel like a baseline ECG/EKG is just a good idea as we get older! No one even thought to do an EKG when I complained of pain running down my neck and through my shoulders. They told me I probably slept wrong and sent me home with pain meds and a Rx for a chiropractor ! I walked around for 10 days in agony and my LAD was 100% occluded! I had to beg for someone to take me seriously, and once they did, I got a helicopet ride to Univ. of Pennslyvania. My lesson learned was "be yor own advocate". Best of luck in your journey!!
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