This makes so MUCH sense to me. Take a look and see how full your barrel is. Also, how much of it is the way you tend to interpret what happens. We do that as a result of what we have been taught by previous generations and current messaging including media. For me a good majority of these things were going on leading up to the diagnosis. And the diagnosis itself put me right over the edge. garysharpe.substack.com/p/a...
How full is your stress barrel? - Cure Parkinson's
How full is your stress barrel?
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I agree totally that stress & fear weakens our immune system and contributes to inflammation, (and apparently causes paranoia) but where he says, "...the deliberate use of fear mongering by governments and institutions in order to control the population." what does Mr. Sharpe mean by "...controlling the population?"
"Yes, this is part of a globalized agenda ... this system clearly has massive potential for governments to terrorize the population, and to seek to enhance their control of the population through fear mongering."
"...globalized agenda,.." Most countries can't agree on anything, no matter how basic, much less such a global conspiracy.
This is pure, unadulterated paranoia.
It's akin to believing the gov't had computer chips in the Covid vaccinations to keep track of everyone's whereabouts.
Clearly, PD does this to some people. What a shame.
yeah I always wondered who was monitoring trips to the grocery store and why they would even care - talk about someone who wanted to monitor everyone's every move now that person would be incredibly busy - I suppose they would have a robot do this but then someone would have to monitor that robot
Just to save the robot a little trouble I think I will walk down the driveway and get the mail
Yes, the gov't lies, but what do you mean by "controlling the population?" To what end?
Plus it isn't the gov't collecting info. It's corporations - Google, Facebook, & Elon Musk/Twitter and they don't care when I go to the grocery store, they are just interested in selling me crap
MBA,you should take a walk around those parts and perhaps you would see the hatred and cynical contempt for human beings that pervades the powerful people, (see the wars).
A real madhouse, but you might not want to look again, they are counting on this fact.🤔
Goic,
Do you believe there is a global conspiracy to control populations?
And do you believe that 20,000 dead and 2 million refugees from the Gaza Strip following the bombing of civilians were done to free the hostages? And in your opinion, the two hundred thousand dead and wounded in Ukraine are the product of a war between Russian peoples against the Ukrainian people? Wars cost a lot and are made to plunder the resources of a territory and there are those who finance them. But you can continue to look at the "straw man" of propaganda, that is, the conspiracy theorist.
You could try asking ChatGPT what a "straw man" is. In fact, I did it myself and here's the answer:
“ChatGPT defines “straw man” in dialectics.”
Answer:
” In dialectics, the term “straw man” refers to a logical fallacy in which one distorts or simplifies the opponent's position so as to make it easier to disprove. The topic is presented in a distorted or exaggerated way, creating a caricature of the other person's opinion. This allows the speaker to attack the distorted topic, instead of addressing the real topic. So, essentially, a “straw man” is a false or distorted argument that is created to appear as if it is the other person's argument.”
So tell me who needs a straw man as a “conspiracy theorist”?
Now all it takes is one correct question to the AI and entire propaganda narratives are swept away, hard times for opportunistic writer, self-seeking journalist. 😁
You and I and gomelgo and bolt will forever disagree over whether or not the is a global conspiracy by gov'ts to control populations.
The conspiracy theorist, the no-vaxxer, and lastly climate denier are straw men created by the propaganda of the powerful people to discredit the dissenters, the real ones, a subtle method to silence them. But now they no longer work because people don’t believe anything anymore: “The king is naked”.
From ChatGPT:
“The expression "the King is naked" It originates from the famous fable "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen. It refers to a situation where everyone pretends to see or believe something that is not true, simply because they are afraid to speak up or go against the popular opinion. In essence, it symbolizes the courage to challenge the status quo and speak the truth, even when it is uncomfortable or goes against the prevailing narrative.”
I think the main point of the original post was to highlight the role of the numerous stress factors playing a role in our medical conditions, of which there are many.
I have acknowledged that stress and fear weaken our immune system, but the author of the thread linked to an article by Mr. Sharpe who said in so many words that the gov'ts effort to control populations caused our PD - and I was expressing my disagreement with that and yes, I believe it to be paranoia.
It's not paranoia. Every population in the world is controlled, otherwise thered be no prisons, courts or policè force. The only question is to what extent and what methods are employed to control. And whether you agree with it or not.
I dare say there would be prison, courts, and police anyway - because some people are criminal.
You must have missed the part where nearly every corporate CEO becomes head of some "government entity". The medical establishment is a prime example of this revolving deoor. And you must have missed the info about WEF ( world ecconomic forum).
Marc, it is so disheartening to see your pure judgements couched as truth or reality. I wish there was a way to have us all learn what the difference is. Your tone is demeaning and belittling. Why? Why not actually look into what other people are so confidently stating. Because the words you spoke here seem to make it clear that you haven't.
I posted this to focus on stress, and you are here picking apart Gary's statements about what has been OBVIOUS if one cares to look and read and pick up the carpet, not just see the surface of it. So disappointed to see this continued bashing of anything we are doubtful of.
That is exactly how our "government" as you put it, controls us. It's pure Stockholm syndrome stuff imho. And please don't ask me to prove something Gary said, or to prove that global elites exist and that thhey very much have a direct tie to global governments.
Whether they are able to organize themselves, is a whole different conversation, and I agree to an extend with you on that @Bolt. But they sure as heck can do a LOT of damage trying. I am currently reading The Wuhan Cover Up. I dare anyone here who is truly open to new and challenging information to read it with me.
"but what do you mean by "controlling the population?" To what end?"
Have you studied ANY history at all Marc?
How about if some of you who believe there is a global conspiracy to control populations explain what you mean by "controlling populations?"
If most folks truly knew the amount of stress I live with and deal with they would be stunned. I get up every morning and drink it for breakfast. I had some young coworkers tell me they had such a stressful day and I laughed and said you wouldn't last a week in my world. But I guess it comes down to management and how much of it can you deny or hide.
Gov'ts do indeed lie to gain support for their wars -- often to profit certain people/companies as was the case in Viet Nam and, in part, Iraq.
I just think Mr. Sharpe (who is also an anti-vaxxer) is well over the top in attributing our disease to global anything and I think he is far game as he opinion was linked to.
I have noticed that some people get pretty upset with those who don't buy into such theories.
So, once again, I think Mr. Sharpe is paranoid and I feel his assertions should be viewed with a critical eye.
Marc, please read your own words again: "I just think Mr. Sharpe (who is also an anti-vaxxer) is well over the top in attributing our disease to global anything and I think he is far game as he opinion was linked to.
I have noticed that some people get pretty upset with those who don't buy into such theories.
So, once again, I think Mr. Sharpe is paranoid and I feel his assertions should be viewed with a critical eye."
Now I want to ask you, what is it that you are hoping to accomplish by saying things like this? Fair game? As in, it's ok to speak about him like he is a lesser being than you? "anti vaxxer"? Who taught you to put people into categories this way? It's maddening to hear anyone at this point in the covid game, labeling other people in such a way. I want to treat you with kindness Marc. Do you want to treat other people with kindness? One can doubt someone's postulations without calling them names, and judging their character (ie paranoid). YOU actually seem to me to be pretty upset with people speaking about things you would like to believe were harmless. I would just prefer that people not be pigeon holed like that into categories. Critical thinking doesn't mean criticising the person because you don't agree with them. Calling someone names, or calling them paranoid .... just doesn't make you right or them wrong. Of course this is all my opinion. But it's devastating to me to watch you make such comments here because you are a valuable member of this community. But ... so is EVERYONE else.
AND, this post was about how stress is coming from many angles to make us all sick. Your comments distracted from that point even though you yourself agreed this was the case.
To cure Parkinson's, we need to understand the cause and claiming the cause is a global conspiracy to control populations isn't helpful because it's not true.
MArc, now I see where the miscommunication is. Is it that you think that the government control that Gary is referring to is what he is saying is causing PD? Because that is not how I read his post, and that is not what me, (and others are) saying here. I think maybe you are conflating the two things. What is being said as far as I understand it is that there is already enough stress without the kind of fear mongering that has been aimed at the general population. It's not a conspiracy, it's an obvious fact. We have all been subjected to constant stress. Even folks like me who don't watch the news ... I was terrified to leave my house for two years, with that kind of fear and isolation, it's no wonder I was dxed with PD. And now Marc, I am afraid to post here on HU because of comments like yours. Is that what you were hoping for? I doubt it, but maybe it was? You yourself have agreed that the government lies, and scares people into agreeing with wars. I guess I will just not bother posting here anymore. Because you seem to be waiting to pounce on me at every turn and I don't need MORE STRESS like this.
My apology if I made you feel your comments aren't welcome
Thanks Marc. But I'm scared of you now. I have more stress than I need already. It seems every post I make, you come at me with some kind of challenge. I don't like feeling like a target. And I definitely don't appreciate being accused of ad hominem comments, especially when you are not giving me an example.
Going forward, I'll not comment on any of your comments or posts
This makes no sense to me. How about simply keeping your comments kind and respectful? Rather than using words such as paranoid, or anti vaxxer? To me a personalized message is full of judgements. I do my best not to judge, but my nerves are not made of steel and I am willing to admit when I make mistakes. But usually I am provoked into such mistakes. As the example in Bolt's comments illustrate. Yes I asked if Marc has studied history. It was not a Rhetorical question. History is full of examples of people being controlled into believing their government is righteous even as humans are being exterminated!!! No group hug sorry. Governments very clearly do control people and clearly instill fear for a purpose that is not benevolent in the end. And I don't need Marc to agree or believe that. I just need you to RESPECT that others have good reason to believe it. I am watching my birth country being torn apart because of this kind of belief. I can't even go visit my home, and may never again feel safe there because the governments involved have created animosity everywhere ... all based on fear. Fea is a liar!!!!
See that is too bad, I hope you will get a chance to read his post Bolt_Upright
Show me one example. And I will apologize and take it back.
Thanks Bolt. I corrected the link in my original post. But am still not planning on posting in HU again. This space is as unkind as the FB space.
😱 The miscommunication included false accusations that I insist are addressed .... then group hug would be possible.
Bolt, I agree that it may have seemed like I was insinuating that Marc doesn't know what he is talking about. However that is not what I was doing. And ... it's interesting that you SEEM to be conflating ad hominem with asking someone to back up their claims. Meanwhile all the comments made to me are going unnoticed?
ad ho·mi·nem
adjective
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"vicious ad hominem attacks"
adverb
1.
in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"these points come from some of our best information sources, who realize they'll be attacked ad hominem
PS: I do not come to HU for debate. I don't think of it as a debate space. I think of it as a communal space based on the intention of HEALING.
It is very interesting to see how this post confirms itself. You probably posted this because your stress barrel was quite full. In my opinion, Gary's message here is that we tend to focus too much on a single aspect and that we should empty the barrel. And that's exactly what you see happening here. We pick out one element, unintentionally sparking a heated discussion. You participate and seem to only add fuel to the fire, which further increases your stress level.
You don't want this, you don't want a discussion, you say. So take a step back gomelgo and observe what is happening here. The mechanism keeps repeating itself. There are so many bizarre opinions being shared, and while it's okay to be critical of them, you won't be able to convince everyone of your own truth. Let it slide and don't let it "poison" you. Focus on de-stressing, but do make your voice heard because bottling it up is just as harmful for the stress barrel! 🍀
I'd ask that you stay on HU gomelgo. I've, hopefully respectfully, both agreed and disagreed with you in the past.But you're a valuable member.
Ignore those predators who just want to take out their micro aggressions on others and shut down discussion.
OK guys,Iv waded through the previous posts accusations and counter arguments,so let’s get back to basics.Yes,we are all barraged every day,if we choose to google and news binge,on horrific world conditions.We apparently hear more news in one day than our greatgrandparents( if you are over 70!) heard in their lifetime.However we can individually counteract the barrel of stress with a jar of joy,which I try to to to top up every day.Thankfulness and appreciation of even small things can have a powerful effect on our mental well-being,which in turn I am sure have an effect on managing our unique circumstances.Its free,it’s easy,and in our case it works.we actively look for 5 things we can be positive or joyful about every day,and since we started the experiment we have never not reached our quota.
To some this will sound overly simplistic,but sometimes simple is best.
This post should have appeared at the end ( so far) of the debate.So now you all know as well as being a simplistic optimist I am a computer numpty
Gary's posts, the few I've read, are often political. But they're not posted here. I think it would be wise to keep politics out of these conversations, it always seems to polarize and that's stressful...for us all.
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