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I tried everything else...I would like to know your feelings about that one :

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Seen on FB: WaterTribeTrader:

Diagnosed 5 years ago, I have undergone 11 fasts of 5 to 10 days over the past three years. I stopped all medication 2 1/2 years ago.

My last neurologist suggested I take a smell test before and after fasting as proof of reversal of the disease.

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Reetpetitio

I'm a big believer in Chinese Medicine and in their tradition, fasting is helpful for some body types and conditions and not for others. Do you have excess fat to lose? and excess muscle? I've seen people get weak from long fasts and lose a lot of muscle as well as fat.

When you say you've tried everything - if you haven't worked with a herbalist, or a Chinese Medicine doctor, or an experienced Ayurvedic practitioner, then there's plenty of hope yet - all have some excellent herbs and tricks up their sleeves and a good track record with PD.

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bassofspades

Fasting induces Autophagy, which is the process in the body that cleans up all the garbage and recycles it into basic useful materials that the body can use. In many cases of Parkinsons, the underlying cause of the disease is improperly folded proteins clumping and forming plaques that choke the dopaminergic neurons. These misfolded proteins are cleared away during the autophagy process, thereby allowing neurons to "breathe" again. It may not bring back dead cells but it can help save the ones you still have. It doesnt exactly REVERSE the disease but its the best chance we have at relieving symptoms and slowing it down, even stopping it.

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bassofspades in reply to bassofspades

It has been said that fasting, probably a 3 day water fast, can also clear out all sorts of viri such as covid and the remnants of the covid vaccine, as well as help prevent cancer, since tumors thrive on glucose. Diabetes can even be reversed. The practice of fasting goes back to the days before modern medicine. Even Hippocrates encouraged it.

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jeeves19 in reply to bassofspades

I think there’s actually a creative aspect to it Bass:

‘intermittent fasting may promote the growth of new neurons in the hippocampus, a brain region associated with learning and memory. This could contribute to improved cognitive……..’

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bassofspades in reply to jeeves19

Definitely cognitive. How about motor?

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jeeves19 in reply to bassofspades

Well I hope so.

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JohnPepper

Hi Xenos. While you are wastinbg time on tests or any otrher way to overcome PD, why not try what has been proven to reverse PD? I was diagnosed in 1992 and now, at 89, I am still doing my walking, albeit, rather a lot slower.

Try it, it really works

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Xenos in reply to JohnPepper

Hi John, I appreciate your willingness to help and I tried your method although briefly. I see it as a non trivial way to hide the disease from the neurologist. I'm after more ambitious goals. I can be wrong, of course.

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JohnPepper in reply to Xenos

Hi Xenos. I was diagnosewd with PD in 1992 I tyook medication for 2 years wirhout any signs of improvement. I started Fast walkig in 1995 and by 1997 I sho9wed no signs of any movement symptoms! I stay PD Movement Symptom-free as long as I keep up the fats walking.

That is not insignificant, it is MIND BOGGLING!

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Pivouanne in reply to JohnPepper

Bonjour John , j ai lu votre livre 👍, je suis bien d accord avec vous , cela fait 40 ans que ca fonctionne pour vous .aurant faire comme vous , que d essayer plein d autres choses .j ai été diagnostiqué en 2017 ,à 62 ans , et je marche de plus en plus vite en conscience .Cela ne se fait pas en 1 jour , mais je sens que petit à petit mon parkinson est différent, moins pénible Je vous souhaite beaucoup de bonheur

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JohnPepper in reply to Pivouanne

Thanls Pivouanne

I am pleased to hear that you arewalking. I hope you understand that FAST WALKING means - AS FAST AS YOU CAN

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Pivouanne in reply to JohnPepper

Merci ,je suis touchée par votre réponse , vous êtes un exemple .Oui j ai bien compris , et cela grâce à votre livre . J arrive à tenir 6km/h pendant 20 mn , j ai essayé 7km/ h , mais je ne peux que pendant 20 mn .Mais je progresse ...Et quand il y a une petite côte, je cours pour augmenter le cardio .

Vous devez être utile à beaucoup de part le monde .Moi je suis en France à Reims 🍾, ville du Champagne ..

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Esperanto in reply to Xenos

Hi Xenos, if your goals are more ambitious, I would also take John’s advice to heart.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/349...

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mhberman

Why wouldn't you do the test? The doctor would then be able to write a care report and you would help advance science of treating all disease.

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Xenos in reply to mhberman

I tried to find "WaterTribeTrader" - It's not me - but did not succeed...

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Astrojupiter

me too. I had great results from water fasting. 5 days fasting was not enough but 8 days was great and gave me my life back. I have been fasting about 6 years now, but cut down to twice a year recently. I can not say it was a cure, but I am doing much better. I also did yin yoga daily, 3 hours at first, now must an hour, and lithium helped me as well. I asked the doctor about no ability to smell 18 years ago, but now most of my ability to smell is back. He never did a formal test when I asked about it previously. It helped stiffness, pain.

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Xenos in reply to Astrojupiter

Thank you so much for sharing , AstroJ

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MBAnderson

Xenos, are you saying you are symptom free or that you have greatly reduced symptoms?

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Xenos in reply to MBAnderson

Hello Marc,

There is a misunderstanding here : I did not heal anything (yet). " WaterTribeTrader" pretend he did...

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MBAnderson in reply to Xenos

Thanks for the clarification.

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JayPwP

Unable to find WaterTribeTrader on Facebook

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