Shoulder issues

What’s with all the shoulder problems with Parkinson’s. I’ve had nothing but grief in both of my shoulders for years now and I’m over it. Like we don’t have enough to deal with, right? Is there some correlation between Pd and shoulder issues? Thanks all. Blessings

[KERRINGTON]

Because of my right hand tremor I tensed my right shoulder for years to keep the hand/arm still. Now ,the shoulder is all out of shape, and almost alway tense.

[Bolt_Upright]

I have REM Sleep Behavior Disorder and have not been diagnosed with PK but my left shoulder has been bothering me forever. I'm left handed and discovered "mouse arm" causes pain in all the places my shoulder, neck, and arm hurt, so I'm going to try and hang onto my issue being mouse arm for as long as I can.

[Jujubeeme in reply to Bolt_Upright]

I found Anthony William book Medical Medium to be very enlightening about frozen shoulder.

[hopptimisten]

PD will create tension in your muscles all over your body whether you need it or not. If you have stressful situations emotionally or physically you can get even more. For a non-pwp it’s quite normal with pain from tensions in the shoulders and for pwp it’s nearly 100%. Try to learn some relaxation techniques. Deep breathing, yoga, Qi gong, dancing, laughing…anything that will make you relax. And touching: soft massage or just some loving hands is the best way to letting go of tension.

[Resano in reply to hopptimisten]

Right: "When we’re in fight-or-flight, we breathe into the upper lung fields, taking shallow, quick breaths and using our neck and back muscles to breathe. This increases anxiety, pain, tension, and headaches and inhibits mental clarity. Simply relaxing our shoulders allows our breath to come deeper into the lower lung fields and activates the vagus nerve, which is involved in the relaxation response, a known component for self-healing" (Dr Kim d'Eramo)

[hopptimisten in reply to Resano]

You are right apart from the word simply because relaxation isn’t easy for pwp if you’re not used to it from before getting the disease.

[gregorio]

I use red lamp, red and near, twice a day on shoulder and upper arm, sleeping much better now, much less pain

[MarionP]

Sometimes sleeping in one position can create strain on neck back and shoulder muscles. Sometimes it is difficult to simply move in response to strains while one is asleep, thus creating an exacerbated muscle strain, I've had those for some time although not entirely consistently, but I never had them before I was diagnosed PD.

[JustJeff]

I had dreadful Frozen shoulder lasting 18 months before being diagnosed with PD.....the frozen shoulder went and then PD symptoms kicked in

[Raphaekg]

Frozen shoulder is known to be a common prodromal symptom of PD. I also had it, but it went away when classic PD symptoms began.

[parkylot in reply to Raphaekg]

My mother had frozen shoulder and facial tic.

Lived to 94. Never diagnosed.

Im wondering if I inherited PD from her.

[Hidden]

Do you have shoulder nerve pain from PD? I did in my left shoulder.

[Smokeypurple]

Our limbs are made to move without us thinking. Once we have Parkinson's that movement is no longer as automatic or nuanced, and is reduced in amplitude. What we have to do consciously we never do as much or quite the same, and added to that we have impaired proprioception meaning that even when we make an effort to move a part of our body it is quite hard to know if it is actually doing exactly what we think.

The shoulder is a highly complex area with many different muscles and as soon as one is under or over used the others will be aggravated.

I once read of a lady who took her watch to be mended twice before her PD diagnosis - but it was simply that her arm wasn't moving enough to automatically wind it. She hadn't noticed.

I am trying to exercise my arms, and shoulders as much as possible - but it's a bit of an uphill struggle! A good neuro physio might be able to help?

[Godiv]

I hear you. I had a rotator cuff injury on the right side, I got that taken care of, and then was diagnosed — with the worst being on the right side. Ugh. Physical therapy really helped and the horrible sounding dry needling which isn’t that bad. And of course as other folks have noted, I am sure I was injuring it by not swinging it when I walked. It was kind of funny: I had all sorts of explanations to myself for that lack of swing, just to delay going to the neurologist.😐