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Help for Mom, 84 PD really suffering

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PomPom89

Hi, I am looking to help my mother who's in her last days of severe Parkinson's Disease. She is 84 and not doing well. I have just ordered (Chlorine Dioxide) kit to be delivered to her home. I have read several posts and praying that this will give her some comfort. I understand that everyone is different, incorporate drops as much as possible while slowly reducing the PD meds. I realize you start out slowly increasing as much as she can tolerate for faster results. Then slowing reducing the Dopa meds as much as possible without making her situation worse. Pretty much using your brain with a system to recieve the most beneficial results without putting her system into shock.

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Will it be the reduction of her PD meds that provide the relief or the introduction of the Cholrine Dioxide? Which is the objective?

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kevowpd in reply to MBAnderson

Ive never heard of chlorine dioxide and googling it did not help me understand why a pwp might want it.

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MBAnderson in reply to kevowpd

I have the same response.

I, too, have never heard of this, so I've done some reading about it. (I've read the "quasi-study" done in Bogota Columbia where some body proposed it as a cure for covid 19, etc.)

I'd be careful (read; wouldn't do it) if I were you.

I assume you know it's just a disinfectant.

There is only 1 post on this forum and the thread concludes it is an unsafe to ingest.

healthunlocked.com/advanced....

"Looking up chlorine dioxide on the Wikipedia (a good, though not perfect, source of information) I found this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlor.... Under the subheading

"Pseudomedicine" I found this:

Pseudomedicine

See also: Miracle Mineral Supplement

Chlorine dioxide is fraudulently marketed as a magic cure for a range of diseases from brain cancer to AIDS. Enemas of chlorine dioxide are a supposed cure for childhood autism, resulting in complaints to the FDA reporting life-threatening reactions,[41] and even death.[42] Chlorine dioxide is relabelled to a variety of brand names including, but not limited to MMS, Miracle Mineral Solution and CD protocol.[43] There is no scientific basis for chlorine dioxide's medical properties and FDA has warned against its usage.[44][45]"

If you feel reducing her PD meds would be helpful, maybe you ought to consult her doctor?

Chlorine Dioxide!? That's poison.

ryzlot profile image
ryzlot in reply to ion_ion

CO2 is not poison - it is used widely to treat drinking water

JR

ion_ion profile image
ion_ion in reply to ryzlot

CO2 is actually very toxic.

You probably are talking about ClO2; yes is used for water treatment but does not stay in it and the amount it remains is very low.

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ryzlot in reply to ion_ion

Right CLO2 Chlorine DiOxide. I have rented fingers. BTW CO2 (carbon dioxide) is NOT toxic at all - that is CO (carbon MONoxide). Ingestable CLO2 is made by combining Sodium Chlorite (not NACL) with 4% HCL - then diluting in distilled water. It works as a detox medium

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PomPom89 in reply to ryzlot

Your 100% correct!!!!

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MBAnderson in reply to ryzlot

ryzlot, If you don't mind my asking, just out of curiosity, how come you have a picture a Vladimir Putin?

ryzlot profile image
ryzlot in reply to MBAnderson

We look alike and I don't have a pix of me that I can use. I hear he uses a picture of me on his driver's license

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MBAnderson in reply to ryzlot

ha

When I read the original post I presumed that this was to be an “assisted suicide”.

Sounds like a version of bleach to me, and at room temperature would be a gas, but readily soluble in water. Too high of a concentration probably burn any tissue it touches, and would dissolve skin like any strong base. Sounds very dangerous. Should be avoided completely, and like other forms of chlorine, keep it away from anything containing nitrogen, such as ammonia, to avoid making a volatile, painful poison gas. Like a very strong peroxide. Stay away.

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ryzlot in reply to MarionP

Same can be said for flouride

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MarionP in reply to ryzlot

Well I guess you would know best, Ryzlot. Yes everyone should trust you completely. And how many times have you sold people the Brooklyn Bridge? Maybe this Pompom will find your advice good, not feel the need to do any more research than that, and of course never ever consult a real professional, and just go with you against how many people here with a record that can be judged (I didn't see any such credible record on your account)? Maybe if she's really just trolling for support for the idea and truly only wants that direction of information. I mean, some people out there might actually have taken Trumps advice on drinking and injecting bleach, after all, he was the President (and thinks he still is). Who knows? Do you think it would be fun to help someone do that?

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ryzlot in reply to MarionP

Trump was likely speaking about MMS but people are easily confused. Many assume that anything that starts with CL must be "bleach" . Thousands of people use MMS every day and it has a well established track record. As we speak literally billions of people are taking the "Trump vaccine" - do you know the chemical make-up of that product?

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MarionP in reply to ryzlot

Man, you are not to be believed.

ryzlot profile image
ryzlot in reply to MarionP

Wow - you get to have these opinions but NO FACTS, NO evidence, no intelligent arguments - it must be nice

MarionP profile image
MarionP in reply to ryzlot

Ditto. And you're the one suggesting people use it. Burden's on you.

ryzlot profile image
ryzlot in reply to MarionP

No you are incorrect. It acts on pathogens

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MarionP in reply to ryzlot

If you say so. Of course you certainly are to be trusted.

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ryzlot in reply to MarionP

Thank you for your trust, confidence and endorsement - it is much appreciated miss P

MarionP profile image
MarionP in reply to ryzlot

That's Dr. P. to you.

🙂

Why do you want to reduce the meds?

PomPom89 profile image
PomPom89 in reply to Cagey84

The point is to stop meds completely if we can get the parkinson's under control.

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MarionP in reply to PomPom89

That will never happen. You will never get PD under that kind of control and never stop the need for drugs, going by your original post as being true. Time for you to do some serious homework and get yourself educated.

I think it might be your mother's time. My 74 year old husband passed away 8 weeks ago - cause of death was end-stage-Parkinson's, which he had lived with for 17 years, We admitted him to a hospice 2 weeks before he died. They assessed him for 2 days then took him off all Parkinson's medications (to which there were no adverse reactions) and put him on a morphine pump. Surprisingly, his brain seemed to kick back in - he reverted to his previous hilarious self and for the next 5 days had a wonderful time with many old friends visiting. He then gradually slipped away with no pain or distress. From what you're saying, it seems to me that it's time to let your dear mother go.

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PomPom89 in reply to PtMeirion

Sorry for the loss of your husband. We will leave into God's hands when is my mother's time to go. Just trying to stop some of the suffering. When she's ready to go we will know.

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Despe in reply to PomPom89

Nothing wrong for wanting the best for your mother even at this age. Your immediate family doesn't have age limits! You love them unconditionally! I would have done the same for my mother who passed away at 90 of heart disease complications followed by the FLU SHOT!

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PomPom89 in reply to Despe

Thank you for the thoughtful words of compassion. Some people just don't get it. Oh, just hang it up and pull the plug she's old anyway. Some have no mercy at!! Sorry for your mother. I am never getting another flu shot or vax ever. Too many people I know how suffered bad consequences.

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PtMeirion in reply to PomPom89

I seem to be getting condemned here. I was my husband's full-time carer for the final 5 years of his 17 year journey with Parkinson's. In the final 3 years he suffered 7 broken ribs, a fractured elbow, had at least 100 serious falls, numerous hospitalisations for severe constipation - the list goes on. He was suffering severe pain in his lower back and legs unrelieved by pain medication, was incontinent at night and becoming confused. I was desperate that he did not suffer the pain and trauma of a broken hip. I did not just 'hang it up and pull the plug' and resent the implication that I 'showed no mercy' & 'didn't want the best for my husband of 53 years who I loved unconditionally' He was safe, comfortable and surrounded by love. Was this not better than trying to go on just for the sake of it?

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kevowpd in reply to PtMeirion

Well put. Furthermore, the post literally says "my mother who's in her last days of severe Parkinson's Disease", so its not like your post was unreasonable in that context. Seems an odd thing to write about someone that you think will eek out another 6 months.

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PtMeirion in reply to kevowpd

Thank you. And I'm very sorry for the situation PomPom89 is in.

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cclemonade in reply to PtMeirion

I’m sorry to learn of your husbands passing. I’m perplexed and amazed that when the PD meds were ceased his brain function increased. My father is 83 with end stage PD. I understand your perspective. After years of struggle, I wish him peace and comfort.

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PtMeirion in reply to cclemonade

Thank you.

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PtMeirion in reply to PtMeirion

Hello cclemonade: Regarding your amazement at my husband's brain function increase. I had asked his neurologist about ceasing his Parkinson's meds about 12 months ago because I didn't think they were having any impact any more after 16 years. He told me that Dennis would come to a complete standstill if we stopped them. In retrospect, he was nearly at a standstill anyway. Our daughter's theory (she's a doctor) is that all his energies were directed at trying to not fall over/all his medical issues/all his pain from all his falls - (he was a mass of bruises in spite of my best efforts)/his new pain in his back & legs etc. Once he felt safe & his pain was being properly controlled, she thought that all these fears went away. He was so much more responsive to what was going on. He recognised all his visitors & had fun reminiscing with them ( keeping in mind he was now bedridden) I send my very best wishes to you and your 83 year old father

Please get some professional help! You may need to up her meds, not start reducing them, and you certainly don't want to be giving her anything that could make her sicker. I hope you are not alone in trying to care for her but have others you can consult with and especially a movement disorder specialist. A good neurologist will do if you don't have the other.

Pom Pom,

I don't think that the chlorine dioxide will be of much benefit to your mom unless she has some type of infection at work and PD has not been determined to be an infection. CD is controversial with many saying it is a miracle drug while others maintain it is toxic. It can kill many pathogens, but that in itself can potentially create a Herx reaction/rapid die off of pathogens which can be very unpleasant for your mom if it occurs as these could manifest as flu like symptoms until her body is able to rid itself of the die off of any pathogens. If she gets flu like symptoms and her doctor is aware of it and given her condition, he may want to hospitalize her which means you may not be able to see her in the hospital. At her age and condition, this could be very hard for her to deal with and there are no doctors who will oversee the use of CD. So that means the two of you will be on your own in this endeavor.

Jim Humble and his church are the ones who popularized the use of MMS, but his claims were just that, claims with no actual proof to substantiate his claims, such as his claim to be able to cure HIV, for which he never provided any actual proof of a patient who was actually cured. I don't doubt, that CD can significantly lower HIV viral load, but colloidal silver can do that more safely and neither one is a cure for HIV.

If you take your mom off of C/L too fast, that may create new problems after being on it for so long, so if you are going to do it, go very slowly as some people have had bad reactions to coming off of C/L too fast. Best wishes to both of you no matter what you decide to do in this difficult situation. Symptoms from withdrawing from Sinemet can be similar to Herx symptoms in some people, which may be confusing in your mom's case :

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

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From this:

"Now for the first time in my life I am having weight problems. I am done!!!! I ordered myself as well as my a kit Chloride Dioxide. I am anxiously waiting for them to arrive. This is my last hope"

Do i correctly assume you have ordered CD for your own purposes as well as your mother's?

If so, it appears you have been misled into believing that CD has broad disease healing properties. Please do not self-medicate with this and don't give it to your mother, either.

Consult your mother's doctors about what to do regarding her condition and what it is she wishes to achieve at this stage.

It is terrible to watch your mother suffering, but her PD meds are probably giving her a lot of relief, so I wouldn’t take her off them. If anything I’d give her more (after checking with the doctor). If you can get some decent vitamins into her that might help - B, K, D (go for a good quality multi or chat to your chemist). I expect you feel a desperate need to do something to help.

My mum died 2 years ago after 4 years being bedridden. It was a relief but I miss her every day.

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