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Has anyone had experience with this approach on thaat website?

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Grumpy77

Which website?

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MehmetKutlu

Would you please provide the Internet address ?

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JohnPepper

Hi Jandeb

I was put onto Sinemet and Symetrel when diagnosed but two years later I asked to be taken off them and put onto Selegiline. After 6 years I was able to come off any Pd medication and have been off them since 2003.

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HugoRipanykhazov in reply toJohnPepper

Sounds like you kinda obviously never had PD itself. I wonder if your doctors had heard of Parkinsonism?

I know the NHS favours Selegilene it but havent there been a few studies that rubbished it? I was on it for a few years because there is some doctor at my hospital who wrote a study on it. But it did nothing whatsoever and, like you, I stopped it.

Maybe there is some placebo effect to believing a disease is irreversible?

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JohnPepper

There is no doubt I have Pd. Four different Neuros can't all be wrong.

If it helps you ar all. everybody who has been shown how to walk normally within a few minutes has done so. Not one single person was unable to do it.

That means they don't freeze and they can start doing the fast walking which produces GDNF in the substantial nigra. In that way they get better as well' I am attaching a letter I received last week, one of many I get. It is self explanatory.

If you are a neurologist or a big Pharma plant then do everybody a favour and stop trying to get other people to believe I don't have Pd!

The John Pepper Story

By Lisa Oei, PT, MSPT, DPT, Founder of PD-Connect.org

I first learned about John Pepper as being “Chapter 2” in Norman Doidge’s book The Brain’s Way of Healing. I picked up on the concept of “learned non-use” and made it the core teaching of my concierge private practice as a physical therapist working exclusively with Parkinson’s. To my great delight, John Pepper came to the San Francisco Bay Area to do live lectures. I attended two of the three lectures within a week, and my client attended the 3rd meeting.

The most remarkable moments came when he would take a person from the audience, usually someone in a wheelchair or who used a walker, and he would have them go up on their toes, kick their leg out, swing their arms and then say to them, “There!! You have just done all the things needed to walk. You just forgot that you have legs. So, let us reconnect with your legs…and walk” And then, with a little encouragement and stability, these wheelchaired people would walk across the room…as the audience watched in awe.

After meeting John Pepper, I immediately applied his conscious walking methodology to a new client; an athletic, former USA Rugby player, and winery owner. Standing tall, in that Parkinson’s posture sort of way, my client was starting to show some of the classic signs of the disease progression. Most prominently was his difficulty with gait and balance.

He could not walk more than a few steps without shuffling his foot. He had a lack of arm swing. And he tended to lean forward in his posture while walking.

My client was of athletic build and an avid sportsman. His passions included playing golf (he is an exceptional golfer), duck hunting, hiking, and traveling but he had stopped some of those activities for three years, notably golf, when his gait became more problematic.

We focused immediately on the techniques of conscious walking. And slowly, with extreme focus of the details in walking, we set goals. First, it was to walk between two parking meters without shuffling. Next, it was between two telephone poles without shuffling. Then it was one full block without shuffling…and so on, and so on. And like in The Brain’s Way of Healing, if we talked too much, my client’s foot would shuffle. Eventually the blocks became miles on hilly sidewalks and then mountainous terrain. He commented one day about how he had gone on a very rocky and hilly hike in Arizona and he could walk very well! I remarked that when he was walking along cliff edges and boulders, he was consciously walking instead of the automatic walk on sidewalks that used to cause him to shuffle. One of the most remarkable characteristics about my client is that he applies his skills as a CEO to his Parkinson’s work. He takes each Parkinson’s symptom that comes along and addresses it like a CEO would solve a business problem. His focus, drive and discipline at each of our sessions resulted in cumulative gains that have allowed him to do everything he wants to do in his life. He is back to walking eighteen holes of golf and can play two to three days in row. He even got a new puppy to be his walking partner. His new goal is to not just meet his first grandchild, but to wrestle with them!

in reply toJohnPepper

John just makes this stuff up to sound legitimate: " fast walking which produces GDNF in the substantial nigra". It's not real.

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JohnPepper

Do you know what GDNF is?

It stands for Glial derived neurotrophic factor

It means that the glial cells, which manage the production of dopamine, get repaired by the GDNF. The increase in the production of dopamine must make Pd symptoms better.

If you are a stooge for big Pharma you are wasting your time. Get real and see what people are doing with my walking.

in reply toJohnPepper

First of all, the trials that tested GDNF for PD failed. Don't let that get in they way of your science-y story, though. Yes, I know, you claim that your all-natural fast-walking derived GDNF is superior to the exogenous GDNF used in the trials but again, you have just made that up because it suits you.

Secondy, there's no evidence that "fast walking" results in repaired cells of any kind.

Thirdly, and critically, all of the studies that find that exercise is beneficial for either PD symptons or disease progression conclude that more vigorous exercise is required than merely "fast walking".

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JohnPepper in reply to

Horace, you are bullying me, but I have handled bullies before.

When you acqaint yourself with what I do then you will change your tune.

I have got more people getting better or have got better, like me, than their medical profession with its useless medication that only treats the symptoms, while the Pd continues to get worse.

Before you go shooting your mouth off again, put your money where your mouth is and come and get first-hand interviews with people who have done fast walking and know what it has done for them.

The lady who wrote that letter said you are welcome to contact her, anytime.

in reply toJohnPepper

Lol. I know all about what you do, John, I've been seeing your spam on several forums over the years. Here's a suggestion: if there are others that have been able to replicate your miraculous recovery from PD by fast walking, why don't you interview them and put the interviews on YouTube? I'm sure they would be willing, given that you have given them their lives back?

If you don't want to be 'bullied', quit making stuff up.

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JohnPepper in reply to

Being called a liar by someone who is anonymous, and who obviously has a hidden agenda, tells me to not respond, it only gives them more opportunity to knock me down. Fighting Pd is enough for me.

I will take your suggestion about interviewing people. I live on the other side of the world to most people on this site so interviewing in the nighttime is going to be difficult.

At nearly eighty-six, this technology is a bit too much for me.

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AmyLindy in reply toJohnPepper

Go John.

Horace, please, just 🛑

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JohnPepper in reply toAmyLindy

Thanks

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