Matcha to Mucuna Ratio?

[pdkid]

Hello, I know it depends on the green tea and the mucuna,

but for 100% pure ground bean, what is an effective ratio you have found to mix in with matcha green tea?

For my dad! Thank you!

[MBAnderson]

Does caffeine or EGCG change the performance of Mucuna?

[pdkid in reply to MBAnderson]

The EGCG in green tea is supposed to help the levodopa in the mucuna cross the BBB. It sort of acts like the carbidopa. We are just starting to try it out now but seems like there are a handful of people doing this.

[SilentEchoes in reply to pdkid]

Have you got any information on dosage etc. that you can link? Thanks

[pdkid in reply to SilentEchoes]

seems like dosage depends on person ... i am trying to figure this out too (for my dad). here is an article that talks about. i there are a handful of people on this forum that use the green tea with mucuna (which is how i learned about it!)

intechopen.com/books/parkin...

One can also add green tea; its polyphenols are inhibitors of decarboxylase (such as benserazide or carbidopa), further reinforcing the levodopa. The overall bioavailability of levodopa will be improved. In some patients a spectacular result has been obtained, as we have previously published [53, 54].

7.3. Risks of combining Mucuna and green tea

Green tea enhances the effect of beans in general and of Mucuna in particular. This effect can also be seen in patients taking Sinemet or Madopar: it is recommended that patients be aware of this phenomenon due to the increase in potency it can produce.

Carbidopa-like effect. There is something in green tea that acts like carbidopa. It contains polyphenols which inhibit dopa-decarboxylase [55], an action similar to that carried out by the carbidopa or benserazide contained in Sinemet or Madopar.

Entacapone-like effect. In addition, there is something that acts like entacapone in green tea. Polyphenol, epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG) promotes the entry into the brain of levodopa and prolongs its bioavailability in the bloodstream because it inhibits the COMT enzyme [56]. This action is similar to that of entacapone, namely, that beans mixed with green tea have Stalevo-like effects but with different proportions. Obviously, if you take levodopa (Mucunaor otherwise), its effectiveness will be reinforced, and this should be taken into account as there is risk of overdose. Always consult your doctor.

These “carbidopa-like” and “entacapone-like” effects can be seen with green tea, and they are independent of their other neuroprotective benefits [57] so the tea is recommended for many Parkinson’s disease patients.

[SilentEchoes in reply to pdkid]

That's the research I just found. lol

So far it's very encouraging. I've been looking at mucuna puriens extract power, I might just start with the recommended serving an see how it goes. Thanks!

[pdkid in reply to SilentEchoes]

based on my research and reading other people's experiences here on the forum (and on my dad's own experiences), its a quite a bit of trial and error, but worth it in the long run!

also, the guy who wrote that paper wrote a whole book about alternative therapies for parkinsons.

amazon.ca/Natural-Remedies-...

[SilentEchoes in reply to pdkid]

Your dad is blessed to have you looking out for him.

SE

[pdkid in reply to SilentEchoes]

awh, im trying... thanks for the encouragement, really appreciated

[Despe]

Give your dad something acidic (Dr. Mischley's advice). You can also ask your neuro of family doctor to prescribe just carbidopa which he can take with MP. That's what our MDS suggested and prescribed and works great.

[pdkid in reply to Despe]

wow, great tip! thanks