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Zanubrutinib to be considered by UK NICE

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I realise that Zanubrutinib is a newish BTKi to the market, especially in the UK but if anyone (in or outside the UK) has any experience of this drug, good or bad, I would be grateful if you could share it to assist CLL Support in their submission for the appraisal.

NICE do like to hear of real patients' experience of any drug that they are evaluating. You can either reply to this post or send me a PM over the next few day if you can (the timeline is a short one).

Many thanks in advance

Jackie

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cartwheels

Hi Jackie

It's been around a while did know someone in Australia who received it early days but unfortunately it didn't work for him .

Here is the link from ash they talk about its superiority over ibrutinib hope this helps

patientpower.info/chronic-l...

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Jm954Administrator in reply tocartwheels

Thanks for that, I have all the technical information I need and references, just need some patient experiences now.

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cartwheels in reply toJm954

Not sure if it can be used for relapsed patients who have failed ibrutinib. Which I'm still on myself. Did ask my consultant what next when ibrutinib fails for me and I'm sure he said another btk inhibitor which surprised me as you wouldn't think they would work . Previously a few years ago when I asked he told me veneticlax as a pathway to SCT .so things have moved on .Anyway hope you are well and all is good for you

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mrsjsmith in reply tocartwheels

Cartwheels,

I also asked the same question and was told Venetoclax. I just, sadly, like to have plan B in my mind, but let’s hope we won’t need to know. I am going to ask again at my next face to face in a months time.

Colette

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cartwheels in reply tomrsjsmith

Nothing sad about it. Shows you are thinking ahead,I first asked the question after around 2 years on ibrutinib, I'm now coming up to 6 years and each year advances are being made . I hope you get as long as meon ibrutinib and at present I'm still good

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mrsjsmith in reply tocartwheels

Me too 🤞

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Jm954Administrator in reply tocartwheels

it’s being evaluated for RR CLL too

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bayside64

I developed a hematoma and stopped it right away.

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Jm954Administrator in reply tobayside64

thank you

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ivy39

Hello Jackie. After 2 years on Venetoclax and a resulting 2 1/2 year remission I started on Brukinsa/Zanubrutinib in mid-November. So far all good. No annoying side effects . I'm told that success takes time. Getting your lymphocytes back to their normal range apparently will/can take months.

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Jm954Administrator in reply toivy39

thank you for your help

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Zia2

Jackie I took it. Will my bio help? I’m more than willing to.

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Jm954Administrator in reply toZia2

thanks, I've looked at your bio and yes, there are bits I can use, anonymously of course x

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splashsplash

After two chemo treatments I went on Ibrutinib for six years. I then relapsed and mutated to P53. I have been on Venetoclax for the last two years and in March I'll be taken off it.

Will Zanubrutinib work for me? A friend has been on it in NYC for a few years with no side effects and a good remission but he was previously untreated.

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Justasheet1 in reply tosplashsplash

Splash,

I would say that it would not work for you if you relapsed on a BTK. You would either be rechallenged with Venetoclax when you needed treatment again or you could look to a new BTK called Pirtabrutinib which binds to a different site on the B cell. It also is not officially approved yet by the FDA.

Jeff

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splashsplash in reply toJustasheet1

Thanks Jeff, great to know I have options when the time comes.

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Jm954Administrator in reply tosplashsplash

It may work but that will depend on why you relapsed. Were any tests done to see if you have any BTK mutations?

Jackie

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splashsplash in reply toJm954

I was Tri12 before coming off the Ibrutinib. I was advised to come off it earlier than six years as my cells were going up but as it suited me so well I clung on somewhat. I was taken off Ibrutinib suddenly and within three days my Leukaemia cells had rocketed up, the hospital thought I had Richters although the tests showed it wasnt but I had mutated to 17p. After I was put on Venetoclax the cells came down and after two years I'll be taken off it in March. It would be good to know what my options are after that though.

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Jm954Administrator in reply tosplashsplash

Your situation is similar to what happened to me. It was a very worrying time and I'm sure it has been for you too.

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splashsplash in reply toJm954

Yes not knowing what treatment options lie ahead is indeed worrying. I would be interested to know where you are with your CLL path.

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Jm954Administrator in reply tosplashsplash

I'm almost 1 yer into my 2 years of V+R treatment. I'm having a CT scan and BMB soon to see how I've responded and then we'll make a decision about next steps which may be a transplant.

Any other drugs will have to be via a clinical trial from now on, sadly we will have run out of NICE approved options but there are exciting new treatments on the horizon.

Jackie

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HopeME in reply toJm954

I’m pulling for you Jackie as I’m sure many others are, too. There are countless people you have touched who appreciate the knowledge and time you have shared both on Healthunlocked and as a patient advocate. The world needs more people like you.

I was at Dana Farber in Boston today and I read the below quote on a lobby wall and it resonated with me. Clearly, you have been operating in the spirt of this quote for a long time. I’ve committed to doing so as well.

"It has been said the purpose of life is to spend it on something that outlives you.

No man finds his ultimate end in himself, but does so by sharing with others.

- Sidney Farber, MD

I hope your doctors are able to figure out a good treatment path for you to follow. Good luck with your testing.

Thank you,

Mark

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Jm954Administrator in reply toHopeME

I love that quote Mark and thank you for those kind words x

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splashsplash

Good luck with your treatment options ahead Jackie.

I found there are trials happening for new drugs in the pipeline, although they take a bit of detective work to find.

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