Compensated Liver

[bintcliffe]

Hi There

Can a compensated liver become decompensated, and can this happen over night??

Regards

Hayley x

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I am not sure how the process evolves but yes, it can become decompensated. Take all the medical advice and maybe contact the Liver Trust and read their information.

britishlivertrust.org.uk/

[bintcliffe in reply to Hidden]

Thanks Snoutie 😁

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It can yes but it usually needs a catalyst. What makes you ask Hayley? Something change that's concerning you?

[bintcliffe in reply to Hidden]

Hi Phoenix

Nothing has changed since leaving hospital.

It's just reading everyone else who is at stage 4 they are decompensated.

I am generally well with ok bloods I really need to ask my consultant some questions of how they have come to the stage 4 diagnosis.

Thanks for your reply and take care.

Hayley xx

[Hidden in reply to bintcliffe]

Did you see the explanation Katie wrote for you on the other post? About the staging? I think you might be confused a bit on that maybe?

Stage 4 liver fibrosis is cirrhosis

But there is also a stage 4 of cirrhosis

I'll try to maybe simplify it here for you

The 4 stages of fibrosis are:

Fibrosis1, Fibrosis2, Fibrosis3, Fibrosis4 (Fibrosis 4 stage is called cirrhosis)

Then you break down the F4 Cirrhosis stage into 4 stages:

Stage 1 and Stage 2 of Cirrhosis is compensated

Stage 3 and 4 of Cirrhosis is decompensated.

Your doctor is telling you that you have F4 meaning its cirrhosis. And you are compensated so your in either stage 1 of cirrhosis or stage 2 of cirrhosis.

The post about the womans husband from earlier is different than you. He is in stage F4 but he is decompensated so he is in stage 3 or 4 of cirrhosis.

Does that help you understand a bit better?

[bintcliffe in reply to Hidden]

Hi Phoenix

Many thanks it certainly does.

The penny has dropped.

Take care.

Hayley xx

[Hidden in reply to bintcliffe]

😊

[Peppy05 in reply to Hidden]

Hi Phoenix, I think I've got, so I am F4 stage1 I have compensated cirrhosis since F4 is cirrhosis and I am compensated, is that right.

[Hidden in reply to Peppy05]

Yes exactly Peppy05. You would be F4 as it is cirrhosis and stage 1 or 2 depending if you have varices or not. Stage 1 you would have no ascites or varices. Stage 2 you would have no ascites but would have developed varices. Both are still considered compensated. So again yes you totally have it right 😊

[Peppy05 in reply to Hidden]

Thanks phoenix

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

Thanks Phoenix,

I went straight to end stage and did not past go. Useful to know what exactly the earlier stages are, that was my understanding too.

Mark.

[Brett11 in reply to Hidden]

Yep. I’m still end stage cirrhosis. But I’m currently compensated. That means that I’ve had all the symptoms of stage four decompensated but now the drugs are working, I’m stage four compensated . I haven’t gone to stage one or stage two just because I’m compensated. Does that make sense? I will always be stage four it’s just the compensated/ decompensated aspect that can change.

Cheers,

Brett (Bob or LaLa)

[Hidden in reply to Brett11]

So Bertha had to move out?

[Brett11 in reply to Hidden]

Bertha is a separate entity 😂

I’m trying not to freak out the new people to quickly 😂

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I was beginning to think that there was some gender realignment happening. 😂