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Mainstream medicine makes no secret of its intense hate for aspirin. That humble drug has been the subject of countless articles of propaganda (many of them ghostwritten), with the goal of driving doctors towards eliminating aspirin from their practice. One of the most "sensitive" areas of aspirin's influence over the medical field has been blood clotting. Despite multiple smaller studies demonstrating the effectiveness of aspirin in prevention of clots (which is what led to its usage for heart attack prevention in the first place), medicine kept insisting that other options such as the pro-calcification, rat poison heparin or the newer, fraudulently-approved drugs such as Xarelto are much "better" and "safer" options. Well, the largest study to date comparing aspirin to heparin (the gold standard in anti-clot treatment) has just been published and the results are clear. Aspirin is at least as effective as heparin for clot prevention, and likely safer at that too. now if it stops heart atacks.strokes in first place,lowers bp ,helps depression /anxiety, its really a no brainer for most, or it seems we rather take pills whith much more damage and side effects and not much quality of life, its worth a try to get your life back,

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big pharma needs their cut.

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it's simplistic to say that 'aspirin is at least as effective as heparin' for clot and stroke prevention; aspirin thins platelets, but not prothrombin, so if you have blood clots caused by a problem with prothrombin, it won't prevent those. Equally, a stroke can be caused either by a blood clot or a haemorrhage, a bleed on the brain - any type of blood thinner, including aspirin, raises the risk of haemorrhage.

People with heart problems may actually be prescribed aspirin, but what doctors don't like about that drug is its propensity to cause damage to the stomach lining and, subsequently, bleeding in the stomach. Aspirin has a pharmaceutical role to play, but usually there are other drugs available to do a similar job with less risk.

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peter999999999 in reply to bamboo89

well if u take vit c supposed to stop it,but in all fairness have you ever known anyone to have a bleeding issue,i have not in my lifetime,small risk ,id rather have that than heart atack/stroke, 95 percent,heart atacks/strokes caused by clots. most people just read it causes bleeds but most never do, ive taken it for nearly 40 years and no problem till i listened to doc,stopped it 3 months got ill, ill take it now for as long as i live,its a wonder drug so they say,

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Agreed, Aspirin may be useful in A&E rooms but that's it. The best Anti Coagulant is found in Nattokinase. Best blood thinner is Vitamin K2 (not K1).

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Nattokinase you nead a ton of that to get anywhere near 75mg aspirin, k2 helps if you take aspirin and are a bleeder

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I don't agree Mr Peter hence the fact there's a warning on K2 labels not to take if on Warfin as this will make the blood too thin. K2 (MK7) 100mcg is safer than Aspirin.

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ill take aspirin,cheap easy to get and works for loads of things , take what you think does you best,

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peter999999999 in reply to peter999999999

u dont take k2 with any blood thinners as it thickens the blood the exact oposite what warfirin/aspirin does, it does not thin the blood more

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Your statement about K2 thinning blood is incorrect - the reason K2 is not recommended for people on blood thinners is because it may thicken the blood and offset the effect of any anticoagulant medication. In reality, I have taken K2 for the last 15 years whilst taking prophylactic heparin. Whether it does thicken the blood or not is not fully clear - certainly vitamin K does, but K2 has a different activity in the body. The NHS has only just grasped there's a difference between K and K2, but whether there's any actual research into whether it increases the risk of blood clotting or not has, as far as I know, not been done. From the research Idid when I first started to take K2 (against the advice of the haematologist), it seemed unlikely to me that it would thicken the blood,and certainly, I've not had a clot for 18 years despite taking it for some years. Anyone on warfarin should probably be more careful though, because that drug interacts with so many other substances.

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Actually its 81% of strokes caused by clots, but yes, the majority are caused by clots. I had bleeding in the stomach with aspirin because I have an erosion of the stomach lining which I didn't know about till the bleeding incident. I also cannot take ibuprofen orally because there's a risk of bleeding with that, but regardless, I'm not tryingto persuade you not to take aspirin, that's up to you, was only wanting to correct your absolutist statements.

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peter999999999 in reply to bamboo89

lol well it found out a problem for you, 81 percent how do u no,i read 95 it could be any number really whatever u read but its good odds above 50,stops cancer,covid, high bp etc etc so i read, but a mates a doctor so i was told it was good for u, that was 30 odd years ago, i now just take what makes me feel we, ll , if it makes me unwell its no good,

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I found out by looking up the latest stats on stroke...

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peter999999999 in reply to bamboo89

look at another it will be different but good odds ill take that, better odds than taking bp pills, i found when i monitered myself my bp came down 20 pts on aspirin the top number the bottom about 8, that was befor i took bp pills and suffered horrendus side effects, now i just take a half a baby aspirin twice a day and never check bp, seem to be sleeping a bit better but still never got to 5 oclock yet,usuall between 2 and 4 am ,

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