…would it be fair to say that after the heart attacks, afib, arrhythmia, hypoglycaemic shock, AKI, cardioversions, stents and drugs, and that having had the best treatment the NHS can provide, why do we need to watch the diet?
I mean, all the blocked arteries and fatty deposits have been remedied by the angiograms, stents and bypasses that took decades to form.
That cheese is not going to eat itself is it? It’s calling me.
If I live another 50 years it may become an issue, but, to be fair, that is unlikely.
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Anyone however healthy can have a heart attack or whatever. Your chances of having one - or repeated - is exacerbated by poor diet and lifestyle.
And it probably happens quicker if you help it along.
I found that having cheese - along with the wine and crackers that go with it - after dinner added 800 calories to my intake. I know calorie counting is frowned upon but nevertheless if I consume more calories than I use then I’m going to get fat. Fatter??
I’ve got new pipes after my Nstemi and quadruple bypass (July 2023) aged 61. My consultant surgeon said I had one job to do , keep my new pipes clear. That meant couple of tweaks in my nutrition. I’m on lowest dose of bisoprolol (1.25mg) and ramipiril (half a 1.25mg tablet) 10mg rosuvastatin, 75mg aspirin.
I take onboard the the potential layering effect of diet on building up cholesterol levels, sure that might take some years but my new pipes might not have the same shelf life as my original 61 year old blocked arteries , they may be good 15 years (hopefully 25 if I look after them).
Plenty of other benefits of not over indulging as we age and keep a healthy weight, lower blood pressure , less likely to have pre diabetes , less cancer risk, less stroke risk. Another benefit is feeling pretty fab and grateful for my rebirth. At rehab classes we had a talk from a nutritionist , she said we should limit cheese to 30g portion daily . I did ask if we could save that daily portion up for the weekend … sadly , she didn’t agree to this .
Doesn’t mean I don’t eat cheese or have a steak every now and then , I just don’t have them weekly. I really do make choices around booze and food. I think medication can only do so much , it’s not a cure all. We all have choices , enjoy your cheese.
Yeah, I had a nutritionist after my third HA and the lovely lady gave two sheets of A4 double sided close-printed lists of stuff I couldn’t eat.
Turns out, eating that paper was just about all I had left.
I’m sensible about my diet, not fanatical as I used exercise to compensate for any transgressions, but since the last setback I’ve piled on the weight and the oedema has come back .
Still, I’ve got the cardiologist tomorrow and if he says back to work and build up the exercise gradually, then that’s a plan.
The cheese remains uneaten, but I sense its time won’t be long…
Never heard se exercise to offset nutrition , training is for cardio or strength benefits , nutrition should be dealt with separately. Too many people make the mistake stair of eating back calories they think they’ve burned .
The BHF booklet I got with all the other paperwork after my triple bypass was quite clear. Whatever treatment we have due to issues with cardiac plumbing do not cure us, they treat the symptoms, at best a reset. Although I was wondering recently that, because they use one of my own blood vessels in the graft, doesn't that mean it already has plaque deposits?
We had a talk about diet at the level 3 cardiac rehab I attended and cheese was addressed. Whilst the cardiac nurses emphasized they were not food police and it was up to us what we eat, the recommended amount of cheese is a matchbox-sized piece per week. They didn't specify what sort of matchbox, so if you choose to conclude they meant a cooks matches matchbox.....
Anyway, one bypass op per life is as much as I want to experience, so despite my natural inclinations, I'm endeavoring to be sensible. But I feel your pain 😜
I'd think the blockages "remedied by the angiograms, stents and bypasses" would tend to be where the blockage is 'most serious', i.e. don't we already have other parts of our arteries building up, but not yet deemed enough of an issue to remedy? 🤔
In '50 years time', I'm hoping for mini-bots to go in and clean the arteries - needed well before then though tbh so will keep on the healthy diet... 😁
It's stupid posts like this that put me off this forum, apart from an occasional look. Just stuff your face, sit on the sofa, and have another HA then eh?
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