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hey.

Does anyone else with a heart condition struggle with sleeping? I can be super tired to the point I cant keep my eyes open, but still cant sleep. Im lucky if I get 4 solid hours. I occasionally have a nap in the day but that doesn't help much either.

Hopefully im not the only one x

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Captain_Birdseye

Hi,

I know I've struggled, I'm often awake with pain or discomfort and had to move to the sofa so I could be propped up... but to be honest I've never been a good sleeper and live with anxiety so that might be a factor as well.

If it's bothering you, speak to the GP - if it's short term they will probably point you to relaxation/stress management resources. If it's more chronic, they might dive in a bit further to investigate.

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Cherrelleford in reply to Captain_Birdseye

thank you for your reply.

Yes im going to speak to my heart nurse. Too see if theres anything I can do

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RufusScamp

I struggle to get a good night's sleep too. Tips seem to include making sure the room is dark, avoiding using laptops/ tablets etc before bed, and of course decaff drinks. The last is a step too far for me!🙂

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Cherrelleford in reply to RufusScamp

ha ha I dont drink caffeinated drinks. I have black out curtains etc. Just cant sleep. Cant switch off. Im sure ill get to the bottom of it. Thank you for replying

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RufusScamp in reply to Cherrelleford

Enough exercise is my only other offering. I sleep better when I have been active, but a dodgy hip makes this unattractive.

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Meme50 in reply to RufusScamp

Yes also with breathing problems limited exercise, so can be a little frustrating. Do the best you can. I turn on my talk back radio (on a timer) through the night, that sends me back to sleep.

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Madlegs1 in reply to Meme50

An app called " Insight Timer" is also very good. Full of guided meditations and sleep music etc.

And it's free!😝👻

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Shellac

hi I got mircovascular angina and symptoms are insomnia also I'm in perimenapause so its it's hard to tell I had a good sleep last night but most nights tossing and turning, heart pain most nights and hot flushes. Speak with your doctor nothing worse than not getting a good night's sleep ❤❤❤❤

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Cherrelleford in reply to Shellac

oh bless you. Yes I am going to speak to them. Thank you x

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Redkegs in reply to Cherrelleford

Have you tried mindfullness exercises? There are apps and videos on youtube, I found these quite helpful. Feels bit odd at first but after a while they helped. Also helps with anxiety issues which I sometimes get to do with my condition.

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Redkegs

Hi

I suffer from this too. Ive found total darkness, not eating for few hours before bed also listening to audiobooks help me drop off. Ive read air purifiers can help, also plants? Defo speak to your nurse though,could be side effects of a medicine? Good luck mate!

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Cherrelleford in reply to Redkegs

thank you. Ive not tried audiobooks, think ill give that a try too. X

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Lonmayloon

Look up the 4-7-8 breathing technique (Dr Andrew Weil). It works for me especially when tired. If you’re not tired do something else to distract yourself in the meantime (read a book, listen to music/audiobook/radio) and return to the technique when you’re sleepy.

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Cherrelleford in reply to Lonmayloon

thank you I will have a look x

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Redkegs in reply to Cherrelleford

No worries For me autobiographies work the best as its just one voice usually at same tempo and level. Do you work shifts at all? I know from first hand they play havoc with sleep patterns

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Cherrelleford in reply to Redkegs

I haven't worked since my diagnosis at the recommendation of the cardiac team. X

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R3mi

Hello Cherrellford

Like you I have difficulty sleeping if lucky 2-3 hours more likely no sleep which has been going on for as long as I can remember. I did have a respite from it some weeks ago while watching a film a comment was made and it was like a switch was flicked that night and the following few nights I slept like a log and became totally relaxed. Unfortunately I am back into a similar routine but not as bad, from my own experience I can only imagine it was something that has stuck in your consciousness that causes you this lack of sleep. I don’t know what the comment was about but it worked. It is something that may have affected you at the time but has gone into the deep recesses of your mind try and think of what it was you might just be lucky to find the cause. At the same time consultant your GP and see what they can come up with. I hope this works let me know how you f go et on.

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Cherrelleford in reply to R3mi

thank you so much. Its reassuring to know im not the only one that struggles x

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hainses1

What medication do you take? I found it hard to get a good nights sleep whilst taking bisoprol, i would toss and turn and wake uo and then not be able to fet back to sleep. Once i came off it i slept well again. Just a thought

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Cherrelleford in reply to hainses1

I take bisoprolol twice a day, entresto twice a day, dapaglaflozin, furosemide and warfarin. I thought it could be medication related as none of them fully agree with me x

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CastraIvy in reply to hainses1

I also haven't slept well since I started taking bisoprolol 2y ago. And I know that the medication does this because my sleep improved when I lowered the dose. It's still bad, but better than it used to be. Planning another dose reduction. In the meantime, magnesium helps.

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Sunnysummerdays

i suffer from insomnia too, I ask the doctor for zapiclone 3.75 mgs sleeping tablets,after taking 1 of them usually kick starts me into a good sleeping routine for the next six months,then I repeat the process, nothing worse than not getting a good nights sleep 😴👍

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Cherrelleford in reply to Sunnysummerdays

thank you x

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ETHEL103

Ive not had a decent nights sleep since diadnosed with a fib and flutter 2 years ago.

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Cherrelleford in reply to ETHEL103

oh no. My sleep has slowly got worse since diagnosis in april last year x

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ETHEL103

Before my ablation i was getting up to wee every 2 hours.Unfortunately i still get up on waking 2 or 3 times a night.Wouldnt it be lovely to sleep straight through.

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Cherrelleford in reply to ETHEL103

id love a full nights sleep. I can day dream haha. Fingers crossed for sleep

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Zbignieva

I have had more issues since being diagnosed with a heart condition, especially more so with travel.

Gentle/Restorative/Yin Yoga and yoga nidra before bed helps.

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Cherrelleford in reply to Zbignieva

thank you. Im willing to try anything

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Zbignieva in reply to Cherrelleford

you may also be able to get a prescription for melatonin from your GP.

I love the app Downdog for yoga and yoga nidra, there are quite a few free trials, apps, YouTube you can try before you decide.

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Jack2019

it is helpful to get natural sunlight on your skin in the morning, it will impact your rhythm at night.

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Cherrelleford

thank you I will try that x

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