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Asymtomatic (no pain/symptom in day to day life) person with High CAC score of 3000 and Triple vessel disease

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I came across recently a reference in medical blog of nejm journal where asymtomatic (no pain or symptom in daily life) person was having a High CAC score of 3000 .He is stress test positive at 7min of excercise,80% to 90% plaques in LAD,LCX and RCA .He is currently taking aspirin 81 mg, metoprolol 25 mg twice daily, lisinopril 2.5 mg daily, and atorvastatin 40 mg daily , undergoing cardiac rehabilitation 5 days per week. He has been a lifelong vegetarian, but in addition he is now reducing his consumption of refined carbohydrates and sugars. I am following same line of prognosis more aggressively as my plaque burdens are in 5 arteries including one 100 % blocked artery.Any thought on this or similar situation would be appreciated

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Can I emphasise that the extremely detailed medical record of someone in a recent article is just that. It is a journalist writing a piece about a patient, real or not, with the current details of a condition only they know about - Why on earth would you concerned about this enough to seek out a medical stance is the first question and secondly, why you would believe that as "patients" here, someone would be able to unravel the intricacies of this magazine article. With the greatest respects and if you feel justified in taking up someones time regarding a magazine article, perhaps you should ask your family doctor but be prepared to be asked the same questions - Why bother in hypothetical problems - the world is full of problems - don't look for more.

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controlcause

Well ,this is an inspiring case for me, unknowingly I am following same line of prognosis. I thought there will be similar interests in others .

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Adaboo

Hi, it is interesting specially this person being vegetarian! I’ve read so many studies now I’m cross eyed lol. I do believe sugar and useless type carbs are the main cause of artery disease, not animal products and cholesterol as everyone originally thought. More and more studies have proved this now. I hope you keep researching to find what’s best for you. Vit C seems to have been overlooked too, something so simple yet necessary. Good luck

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply to Adaboo

I have oft mentioned Vitamin C to help prevent irritation of the arteries, often the precursor to plaque formation as the body tries to heal itself. The effect on blood vessels was known about centuries ago when they gave lime juice to old time sailors ("limeys"). I recommend 1000mg SR tablets. The slow release version is gentler on the stomach (Vitamin C is ascorbic acid) and better absorbed.

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Adaboo in reply to MichaelJH

Hi Michael, have you heard of liposomal Vit C? Have a google! It’s apparently wonderful but expensive although you can make it yourself. I took a gamble and take 2000mg of it a day.

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Mary_Janet in reply to Adaboo

Hi there,

The recommended daily amounts of vitamin c is 65 - 90mg with an upper recommended level of 2000mg. The clever body regulates vitamin c and excretes excess from the body via the kidneys. Too much vitamin c can give you diarrhoea, nausea and vomiting. If you are taking a diet that including 5-10 portions of fruit and veg you would get plenty good dietary vitamin c. I understand the taking of multivitamins (I take one daily myself) but am very sceptical about the value of a mega dose of vitamin c .

Yours

Mary

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Adaboo in reply to Mary_Janet

There are quite a few studies on it, plus if all else fails with severe illness in hospital IV vit C has often saved the patient. Unfortunately I can’t digest that amount of fruit and veg so I’ll take my chance with liposomal. Most animals make their own vit C and don’t suffer the same heart/ artery disease that humans do. It’s all really interesting.

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controlcause

what is about vitamin k2 i hear it has potential to reduce plaques but did not hear anything from my own cardiologist .. he gave all standard drugs mentioned in the article + nitrates though i do not have angina in order to dilate arteries and boost up blood flow

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Adaboo in reply to controlcause

Apparently vit K2 takes calcium away from the arteries and puts it in the bones where it should be, you do have to be careful though as it changes blood clotting if you’re on a blood thinner.

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Alison_L

I don't think it's sensible to follow anyone else's progress while comparing it to your own. None of us has identical symptoms or prognosis, and what one doctor does for one patient may be completely wrong for another patient who appears to be in a similar situation.

very interesting article

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Bluehope81

are you still around controlcause? You were moving in the right direction.

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