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NHS REFORMS At LAST .... TORY GOVERNMENT DON'T THINK IT WILL WORK IN AUSTERITY BRITAIN WHERE THEY ADMIT THEY CAN'T AFFORD NHS REFORMS BUT WITH A BIT OF HELP FROM PRIVATE SPONSORS ?

AND ARMY OF WORK FAIR VOLUNTEERS TO SAVE THERE MAJOR NHS REFORMS OF NHS PLC ..... CAN COUNT ON TORYS TO EXPLOIT THE WORKERS UNION MEMBERS

LETS JUST HOPE THEY DON'T USE PRODUCTIVE PRISONER'S AND IF GOING TO EXPLOIT THE WORKERS UNION MEMBERS .... LETS HOPE THAY ARE THEY GOING TO BE CRB CHECKED :O

Mr LANSLEY NHS PLC REFORMS REPORT :(

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Hi Daz,

I take it you can't sleep either?

Lorraine

;)

Shall we have a clandestine virtual affair?

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Now Thats A Offer .... :P

Virtually Something With Excitement And Scandal :O And Or Of Clandestine Carry On's

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Tell Me More :O

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Ooh, I just luv talkin to you hun - you simply take my breath away! lol

;)

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What can a say :p

Love have a crack n joke too be a blast :)

I slept through all this, or would I be in the way!

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Not in way annie80 :)

NURSE,, NURSE,,, we need a bucket of cold water,,,,QUICK,,,,,,,,,heehehehehehheheheh

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serenityfrank

Hi Daz.

I'm fully in agreement with your right to hold & express your opinions, always providing they're only controversial & not racist or homophobic, but do you think you might STOP SHOUTING?

Frank

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Cheers .. Will try :)

All the best

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Davybaby

And we're supposed to feel upset that the "we are a grandmother" of this lot won't be getting a State funeral; I feel her sending off should be paid for by Competitive Contract Tendering, which she advocated.

According to that woman "there is no such thing as society" let it be so.

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Yes very true ... Well said or is it here here :)

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Mornin hun,

How are you today, I finally fell asleep at 6.15am

(((Big hugs for sticking with me through the night)))

Lorraine

xxx

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Anytime .. Plesure x

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Wow!!

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I was going to keep out of this but sorry, I get really fed up with people misusing that quote and taking it completely out of context ... What she said was

"There is no such thing as society. There is a living tapestry of men and women and people and the beauty of that tapestry and the quality of our lives will depend upon how much each of us is prepared to take responsibility for ourselves and each of us prepared to turn round and help by our own efforts those who are unfortunate"

I can't see anything wrong with taking responsibility for myself; not expecting everything done for me; and paying my own way. I'm also happy to help those who, despite doing all they can for themselves, still need some assistance.

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"They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours." – in an interview in Women's Own in 1987......................

Obviously she chattered about "There is no such thing as society" several times; I think the majority of the populous got the message she was expounding ME, ME, ME akin to her political children's "Collective of Self Interest" approach.

Ergo, let her family (or her estate) pay for her funeral, at a time when her political spawn are cutting benefits from the poor, ill and disabled, while wasting money on ATOS and top down NHS restructuring.

Mine will have to!

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Agree strongly .... Why should socity pay when like you say she did not beleve in such things

She should of gone and lived in dictatorship .. Nearst thing she could find was ritz hotel

Let hope she don't try privitiasing after life

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I see both sides here about Maggie T. But lets have a break from knocking her!

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hamletvv

I thought this was a medical site not an uninformed political one.

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Pepsicoley in reply tohamletvv

Hello Hamlet

I think that you are being most unfair. You have made comments (not always admonishments) on other questions and blogs on this forum.

Annec

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hamletvv in reply toPepsicoley

I expressed an opinion - ever heard of free speech? Ask the BLF what the purpose of the site is.

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Pepsicoley in reply tohamletvv

Hello Hamlet

'I may not agree with what you say but I defend your right to say it'.

I'm happy for you to express your opinion and, yes, I have heard of free speech.

A few of my friends work as Doctors (only two actually) at my local hospital and a friend's daughter (also a Doctor) is working in Cambridgeshire on medical research. All say that humour is a great help when dealing with patients during their illness.

Anything which makes people (suffering from illness or not) is surely worth it.

Anything which takes one's mind away from dwelling on one's illness is surely good.

I do respect your opinion but I do not agree with it.

Kind regards

Annec

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Gipper in reply tohamletvv

A good post hamletw stick to your guns

Are you aware of the private finance initiative (PFI) and the party that sold the NHS hospitals into debt that will have bankruptcy for a number of health authorities.

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medow

Loved your comment Davy. Back on the day I used to wear a badge saying don't blame me I didn't vote for them! The other one was 'never knowingly kissed a Tory' wish I could find those badges now ! Thanks daisy x x

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Davybaby

I'm in the North West Daisy and the buntings out.....beer is being sold at reduced prices.........and Hillsborough question well! ... independent.co.uk/sport/foo...

me thinks there will be mass cheering at the time!

.......... needless to say Kelvin MacKenzie papers don't sell too well here either....and he's in the news himself: guardian.co.uk/media/2013/a...

Stop press: 700 Pongos to line the route......poor sods

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hi i live in north west oldham

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ChrisMK

Last time I looked, we had a coalition government...

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JabbatheHut in reply toChrisMK

Upsets some when facts are brought up especially when they do not fit with opinions expressed by the writer of a blog.

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ChrisMK in reply toJabbatheHut

That's frequently true of most political debates!

As a new member half of me quite likes the fact that multiple topics can be discussed here.

Then the other half observes the level of debate and isn't so sure :-)

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Just like our govermeant .. But given our lung problems we are bit more proactive in our debates

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Well even in Government it takes two to debate!

But I take your point.

hi datsnot good this nhs is a joke now im worried .after waiting 6wk i got a appontment to go to mobile units ther nhs things.took me an hour to get there on bus,the consultant asked wats up.i told him my hitus hernia murder burning non stop.he said ok dont no if he really understood me or not,he said i rite letter wat u have told me/u go thameside hoz .that was 5 minute in and ot.nurse said u will get letter go .i said thats wat ive come ear for today ive waited 6 week for a 5 minute chat,god wat mony is he on.6 wek later yesterday i went thameside hoz .really thought i was having something done .no.i waited alf hr past my appontment time.nurse called me .i sat in this room on chair 15 minuts,this man cum in no hello no name an no hand shake.so i put my hand down.he sat on the bed i thought he was gonin sleep.he asked wat rong .i told him hitus is bad 10 month now i have no relief.u drink i said i never have u drugs i told him im63 god never brugs in my life either.u smoke i was going to say no.but i told him truth i stopped nearly 5 month now ave copd moderate,well u go hope hoz at salford .i said now.no u get appontment then u go.u will have a tube shoved up ur nose into stomach an u will have a monitor on body for 24 hr then u cum bak salford we see wat problem is.then i decide wat to do.he didnt examine me ask me if i was ok /ow im getin to salford nothing.i said u have had a hard day seeing how ur slodged on bed.i dont think he understood wat i said.he got up an left the room the bldy arogance of him.i went otside an saw a male nurse and told him.a complete waste of time today,this coild ave been done by a letter go salford or a pone call.he apolized if i wasnt happy .told him not ur fault but how much are they being paid for a 2 minute 1 sidedchat bldy arogant git he was .i came home an was ready for crying then i thought no dont let it get to me .shambles nhs now take care

Hi carroll sorry to hear about your experiance troubles .. Think NHS is being swamped with wellfair reforms ... Makes it lot harder for those that are reslly ill

On issue of hospital doctors on appomeant letter thay should be number to call if you have transport issues getting to your hospital appointments ... Give them a call don't strugle

Thats whats up with us in UK so placed .. And don't like to ask

All the best hope things inpove for you

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hi dazsnotgood i asked be four i left thameside at reception /how do i get to salford/wen letter comes/was told the bus /train /or tram/i didnt answer as i wont show myself up i left

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You need to tell them you have mobilty issues and need help .. Sure thay will try fobing you off

On all my letters thay have phone number if a need help getting to hospital to see specilist

For me, one of the major factors in the decline of the NHS was the contracting-out of cleaning services in the 1980s, which led directly to the spread of potentially fatal bacteria such as MRSA and clostridium difficile, as well as other nasties like pseudomonas. These are all opportunistic bugs which thrive in unhygienic conditions.

I've had hospital-acquired MRSA and pseudomonas, which is ineradicable. A close relative died of c.difficile, also picked up in hospital, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, it's a dreadful death.

It's obvious to me that if you pay people a pittance and de-regulate by contracting out essential services, corners will inevitably be cut. I wish the govt would stop referring to this practice as "making savings".

ff x

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Agreed ..

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serenityfrank

Hi all.

I have had amazing support for my feelings about being on a slippery slope towards death, information about how to cope, about the NHS in different places, about where to go to get help - etc, etc.

But it's all been about COPD. Are any of you going to stop giving me help because I think differently from you on a political subject which has nothing to do with lung disease? Will it then become unacceptable to have a different colour or racial origin? Or be unable to spell properly or have bad grammar?

I am very uncomfortable about these extraneous subjects being brought in to our community, a community all about helping one another through our illnesses irrespective of other considerations.

Frank

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I wont ... If can help will :)

Cheers all the best

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I agree Frank. Maybe we need the odd article that may be of general help or interest but politics is not an easy subject and can cause a lot of ill feeling. I likewise feel that this site should be about informing and supporting in a more health focused way.

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