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Your Alice Isn't My Alice...!

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Oh dear...having a bit of trouble on Ancestry at the moment with a chap who is insistent his Great Granny was the daughter of my second Great Grandfather...he says my g.g.father was married twice when I know he wasn't and when I asked please send me details of his second marriage he went into a bit of a huff...said he'd employed a researcher and that is what he'd been told.

Then he was very cross because one of my g.g. father's children was described on a census form as having been ' simple-minded'...wanted to know why that expression was used when the girl might have just been slow in her learning...like it was all my fault.

So I said simple minded was much nicer than being called 'an imbecile' which was another category she could have been put under...he came back with 'would I please look for Alice'...she being his Gt Granny, when I only have one Alice in the tree and she was born in 1660...so it wouldn't be her, unless he's positively ancient.

So I'm going to tell him about my Alice who died when she was a little girl in 1663...see what he makes of that.

Much of the wording is offensive in our eyes...you just have to get over it.

The records for Workhouse inmates are awful...so many listed as imbecile or lunatic.. those poor people must have been left by their families I suppose or perhaps the care-givers died and there was no-one to look after them anymore...

But one of the very worst records I unearthed was about the lunatic asylum a second cousin four times removed was confined in...he was actually buried in a graveyard in his home village but there is a communal grave for that particular asylum which holds the staggering figure of 67,000 people...it opened in 1860 and closed at the out- break of the First World War when it was turned into soldiers barracks.

Something which can be disconcerting is finding unusual names...Golden George is one of Himself's people...we both have girls named Happy...I have one called Deliverance...Hephzibah is commonplace...one of my gt gt gt Grandfather's was named Fernando...and he came from Lincolnshire! Another relative was called Righteous...

Makes the names present day 'pop' stars call their children appear perfectly normal...

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Hello Vashti, I hope we can see this colourful crocheting you are doing! I started to crochet a white baby blanket for my youngest Grandson just before he was born and I've still not finished it ( the little guy was 1 years old yesterday! )

I think all this researching into Ancestry is very interesting, I think I will pick my Aunty Eilish's brains when I see her in Dublin next weekend! I'm very glad I am just called huff xxx :D

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It's a pity we live so far from Dublin...you could have called in for a cup of tea! My Mothers name was Eilis...she didn't have the 'h' on hers...

I'll take a photo of the throw when it's done...!

Perhaps your baby blanket will be finished in time for the next little one...lol

Ha ha vashti. Tell the twat his Alice is through the looking glass and leave it at that :)

I know that some middle names can be fascinating as rather than let a surname die out it was often used as that.

One of my grandfathers married a second time and we always called her Auntie Mallie. I was puzzled by this but managed to trace her and her name was Pamela. Makes sense when you think of kids struggling to pronounce this doesn't it? We always called him not grandad or anything but Uncle Gangy. Is this an old fashioned name for grandfather does anyone know? x

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I've come across Gangy before as a shortened version of Granddad or Grandfather...easier for a child to say...bit like your Auntie Mallie.

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Oh thank you vashti. Well that clears that one up. :) x

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I enjoyed that one I wonder if he will find someone whose Alice is his Alice. ;) x

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Actually...if he is right, then my gt grandfather had two families both at the same time...lol

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Wonder if all the info you unearth on the Ancestory trail plays on your mind and causes you to have nightmares,just a thought.

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Don't think so...been having them since I was a small child...!

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Oh right you need to find a way to relax your mind. " meditation"

At least your family hijacker is in contact with you.

The one who has grabbed my family from an uncle . backwards. .......so includes me and mine will not talk or listen........

The word ...thick comes to mind.

No matter how many times I can prove her mistake ...she will not listen..

Anyway I noted your connection to Lincolnshire

We are members of Lincoln archives so if you need anything looking out/ up.......just say.

J.

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And do you know ,I'm beginning to have a feeling that my hijacker might actually be right...I'll have to eat huge helpings of humble pie if he is...lol

Thank you very much for your Lincoln archives offer...won't forget that and might call on you at some point.

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Ancestry seems to have a lot to answer for vashti. I have not been on it for a while but my 3rd cousin in Canada keeps on finding people that she puts on. I have no clue as to who any of them actually are but I do know that a relative on my dad's side was in the workhouse. She was put there because she had a child out of wedlock but when she came out after a number of years, she had three children (?) A bit puzzling that.

Take care and wishing you well. xxxx

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She might have left the Workhouse for short periods of time? One of Himself's people did that...she had a baby and was put in the Workhouse...in disgrace I suppose...but she ended up having three more children...I found that she'd left to take up positions as a live-in servant and got herself pregnant again...back she'd go to the Workhouse...those poor girls who dropped their knickers might not have realised a baby was the result!

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Good point vashti and you are probably right. Take care xxxx

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