Does anyone sort of hypoventalat when breathing, would be interested to hear.

[debbie19]

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I have done on occasion. It can happen if I have been really very upset about something, or very tired, or sickening for a chesty do. I had one two-three nights ago. My breathing was getting noisy, and as I reached my bed, I sat down, did my puffers, breathing exercises and yes, sniffed lavender, believe it or not. Gradually it subsided. If it is accompanied by coughing, in my case, I could be getting an infection.

Think it important to study breathing exercises, speak to your respiratory nurse, BLF etc, just to make certain.

[debbie19 in reply to Hidden]

Thank you i will give it a go. X

[libby7827]

Hi, it used to happen to me a lot, very scary, was hospitalised 3 times in 3 months because of it, your lungs become so hyperinflated. As soon as you start getting too out of breath, stop what you're doing immediately. I now try to breath out as far as I can and then in, but not too much. It's out to the county of four, in to the count of two. You need to catch it before your lungs take on a life of their own and you lose control of it.

Here's a link to a blog by one of our members, johnwr, which helped me enormously.

blf.healthunlocked.com/blog...

Also, try to distract yourself as much as possible, even tapping your nail on a surface, or tapping two fingers against each other - sound silly but helps to distract you.

If it is seriously affecting your life you can also be prescribed a muscle relaxant which is very fast acting and relaxes your diaphragm within seconds and so slows your breathing. I had these and they helped greatly and I don't need to use them anymore as I use the breathing techniques. Hope this helps! Libby

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Hi Debbie, sometimes wonder whether hyperventilation (chronic) isn't as much of a problem as anything. I have asthma and also copd and was given a paper on asthma hyperventilation.

Think this could explain why occasionally - for no apparent reason- it's almost possible to function on a near normal level, albeit few and far between times.

Thanks Libby for the above tips. Lovelight x

[knitter]

Its happened to me many times.... once when I was in hospital and a nurse showed me the trick of breathing in and out into a paper bag for a short time...it works.

[debbie19]

Thanks Libby I will go on that link, I hypoventalat just sitting relaxing most of the time I'm not exerting myself, very frustrating. X

[debbie19]

Thanks Lovelight I have vocal cord dysfunction so I'm not sure if its to do with that. X

[debbie19]

My kindle has gone off it's head so sorry. X

[jandan]

My panic attacks cause me to hyperventilate. If I am going too fast to use my inhaler and there is no paper bag handy then I cup my hands over mouth and nose, try to drop my shoulders and breath in and out until I can get my breathing to slow down. It may be worth a try.

Good Luck

Janet

xxx

[raptor]

If you have not done a pulmanory rehab clinic,,see your gp and get reffered,,they will teach you breathing tips so you dont hyperventilate as often and if you do you can control it better

[debbie19]

Hi thank you both, but unfortunitly i have tried the exercisers but it doesnt work as it comes on so quick that i cant catch it half the time. X

[libby7827 in reply to debbie19]

Hi again Debbie, another thing I've found very hard to do is slow down! I get up and go charging off and I've now learned to slow down and stop immediately I feel the slightest breathlessness. As I said before, my consultant prescribed lorazepam, .5mg under the tongue relaxes you within seconds. He had a fight to get my doctor to write the prescription, but he did in the end. Now, just knowing I can use them if I need to (I have them in every room so they're always to hand), means I very rarely have to use them any more. See your gp or consultant, being breathless is bad enough but when you get the panic/anxiety as well, it's just too much to put up with. LIbby

[debbie19]

Thanks Libby I will ask my consultant when I see him next. I do tend to forget I can't do things the way i use to, but it happens even when I am at rest doing nothing at all.

[libby7827 in reply to debbie19]

Me too, I get the beginnings of it for absolutely no reason, or if I'm mithered about something, or if I'm expecting someone to visit, I have to open the front door just before they're due in case I can't get to the door if I start a full blown attack. I can't even open the door to the Tesco man, I have to make sure my son's here, all because I was very breathless one day when he came. I don't understand it either, from being a strong person I'm reduced to being scared of my own shadow! I do have faith that it can be overcome though, I've managed to stop the full blown attacks and am working on the anxiety now. LIbby

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I when i get it i will count 11223344 then i will count back words over and over and tapping as well . Then when i cam down then i take the blue pump .

[kaz67]

My Son age 4 years has asthma & has had sever asthma attacks he was hyperventilating first before the attack got worse & that was after taking the blue inhaler he's had at least two sever attacks which caused him to end up in hospital, the other attacks usually cleared up once I gave him the blue inhaler & the hyperventilating calmed down, And your right it's really scary but since he's been put on the Singulair/Montelukast 4mg granules since last November of 2012 he's only had one mild attack which is really good but I have read about the side affects which sound really alarming & worrying but the GP say's these side affects are rare!My son one night a couple of months gone by had to go without the Singulair granules & I thought & was hoping he would be ok so that hopefully he could come of it very soon, but unfortunetly he just kept coughing & coughing like he was almost choking, so I gave him a 2.5ml of antihistamine & it calmed him down & he went back to sleep with no disturbance for the rest of the night.I made an appointment to see the same doctor we always see for his asthma & told him about him being unable to do without the granules so he said we'l keep him on it still but when the warm weather gets better he will take my son of the granules & the brown inhaler & then put him back on them both when the weather gets cold again! what a night mare, I understand what our GP means & it sort of makes sense but I dread the after affects when he's taken of both the brown inhaler & the granulesnat one time! does anyone else have a similar or same problem them selves or children they may have with asthma?, I know I'm not alone & what would u advise!?

[kaz67]

I just read my reply it was meant to read near the end of my txt from where it says but I dread the after affects when he's taken of both the brown inhaler & the granules at one time!