Wheezing!

[Lee2k182]

Good evening all!

Just another asthma related question, seen as though I'm new to all this. Now I'm aware of a potential diagnosis I'm picking up on all sorts that I normally wouldn't think twice about.

At rest I don't wheeze, if I accelerate my breathing a bit, also no wheeze. However if I breath more forcefully, as if I was blowing condensation on a window, I can hear a little bit of wheezing sounds.

Right now I feel fine, I've taken my meds, so is it normal to still have wheezing sounds on forced expiration more near the end of breath?

Thanks again

PS. Expect plenty more of silly questions 😬

[EmmaF91 Community Ambassador]

A forced expiratory wheeze (as you’ve described) can be a sign that asthma is not fully controlled. Good docs can check for this to rate how controlled you are. Tho not every asthmatic wheezes so they tend to i you do it in patients who ‘usually’ wheeze if that makes sense.

Hope that helps

[Lee2k182 in reply to EmmaF91]

Emmaf91, you are everywhere on this forum, thank you for your speedy reply 😁

So I'm undiagnosed at the minute, I'm currently labeled as "probable asthma" and I'm trialing symbicort at the minute (currently on 12 weeks). So it's probably understandable if it is uncontrollable (if I do have asthma).

But assuming someone with asthma is controlled 100%, would they still have an element of wheezing on forced breathing? Even just a tiny bit right and the end of a really forceful breath?

Thanks again.

[EmmaF91 Community Ambassador in reply to Lee2k182]

A 100% fully controlled asthmatic should be fully controlled with their meds 😉. This means no wheeze, no cough, no SoB, no tightness on a normal day. No forced expiratory wheeze.

Of course depending on technique anyone (even without a resp condition) can cause a wheeze, esp at the end of expiration.

I hope that’s answers what I think the question is 😅

[Lee2k182 in reply to EmmaF91]

🤔 hmm maybe it's just me! But thank you for letting me know.

See you on my next post 😁

[Ami40 in reply to EmmaF91]

Hi Emma, I'm on inhalers now which seem to have sorted some of the main issues, wheezing etc... but I have SOB when doing the simplest things with any force? Any ideas with this... again I ca do PF once but if doing a few times... I'm totally out of breath and need to recover

[Hidden in reply to Lee2k182]

I have controlled asthma and I don't find that but after a peak flow I find that I am slightly out of breath

[Lee2k182 in reply to Hidden]

Sorry kamilla22, was that a reply to me or emmaf91? You don't find that you have a slight wheeze?

[Hidden in reply to Lee2k182]

The reply was for you and I have not found a slight wheeze as I am on fostair but a peak flow I do as it is best score out of 3 and then I know about it

[Lee2k182 in reply to Hidden]

Ah, cool. I think it's just me. I don't even know if it is a wheeze, maybe just how I sound when exhaling forcefully 🤷🏻‍♂️ I don't have a wheeze at rest or if I'm panting after a run.

I only noticed it when me and my little boy were writing messages on the patio door with our breath. He started it 😅.

Thanks for your reply though ☺️

[Hidden in reply to Lee2k182]

When controlled if you have asthma then it should be a bit easier but for now listen to your body

[Poobah]

Hello Lee. The physio, attached to my respiratory team, explained that some asthmatics are not good at using their lungs which can lead to problems. She showed me inhaler techniques and gave me exercises. I'm clearly a shallow breather! Talk about having to focus as it doesn't come naturally to me!

Someone else has said that when they do their peak flow it makes them breathless. Me too and it makes me wheezy. For me it's because I'm not doing enough deep breathing - exercise would help.

If you do get an Asthma diagnosis then you can ask to be referred to a physio for respiratory exercises, if you think you will benefit. At least you would get very good advice about getting the best out of any inhalers you take. And you learn how to keep calm and relaxed if breathing becomes difficult.

[bel07 in reply to Poobah]

Hi Poobah, can these deep breathing/respiratory exercises help an asthmatic to use their lungs better or has it improved asthma?

[Poobah in reply to bel07]

It depends on each patient. But it definitely has improved my inhaler technique which has resulted in taking less doses as the medication is getting where it needs to be.

The deep breathing definitely helps if the patient is prone to quick, shallow breathing during a flare up. Even though it's only done several times a day (it takes concentration) the exercise is the opposite to panic, which doesn't help breathing at all.

If you think you may be interested then you can have a look on YouTube to see the kind of thing I'm talking about, however, a personal appointment would highlight any issues you may need to address (the physio will look at how you breath).

[EmmaF91 Community Ambassador in reply to Poobah]

lifeguidehealth.org/player/...

This is one of the auk approved breathing retraining/exercise websites and below is one of the most common physio exercise that gets prescribed by NHS physios;

acprc.org.uk/Data/Publicati...

Hope this helps

[bel07 in reply to Poobah]

Thank you kindly for that. I will look into this, especially for someone like me who has an anxiety and panic disorder as well as asthma, it may help to learn the opposite of panic and help with calming.

[Ami40]

This sounds very similar to me, I used to have a wheeze all the time especially on a morning, and the main problem always was... I am completely out of breathe doing the most simplest things with any force! however have been on few inhalers, and now on clenil... feel short of breath at time still which is the main problem, but hoping this goes away now...?? I'm not wheezing now, but only when forcing out breath like you say... I am experiencing acid reflux and feelings of breathlessness but hopefully this is just as started clenil... I've heard it goes away as carry on! So hopefully so! 🙏