wondered what you all feel about the covid vaccine. I am eight weeks post ablation and things are starting to settle. I’m scared (more terrified) to have the vaccine incase it triggers an Arrythmia as I am really starting to feel relaxed and normal again. Is it worth waiting to discuss with the consultant in a few weeks at my follow up?
Also does anyone get breathless post ablation? Hoping this will settle soon too.
Only you can decide re the vaccine but none of them ever affected me. Regarding breathlessness yes I always found it took three to six months to return to previous levels of fitness.
Is there an urgency to get the jab?
I’m biased so not having any more because I had strong reaction every time but if you haven’t reacted before you probably will not this time, however, I would have thought that it would prudent to wait until you are out of the blanking period?
Have you ever reacted before?
I had covid 2 weeks ago, first time since heart problems. It was a fairly mild cold and sore throat. Both my husband and I tested because his 94 year old father needed a visit and we had colds. We were on holiday in Scotland, walking and generally being outside and enjoying the countryside. The symptoms for both of us were mild and didn't impede our activities. We are both early 60's, we were lucky.
We have both had the initial 3? 4? vaccines and none for a few years.
I'm hoping that this has boosted my immunity sufficiently and will just have flu and pneumonia this year (new heart failure patient so offered pneumonia now)
My understanding is:
The C-jabs have had a much much higher level of adverse serious reactions than any previous vaccine.
There are different manufacturers and different batches from the same manufacturer. So a past 'no effect' last time isn't much encouragement.
Even after the jab, you can catch Covid (spoke to someone yesterday who had 4 jabs and was v unwell for a week). The publicity says it will be less severe if you have the jab but can't see how they can state that with any confidence.
Yes, that was an interesting one, however you may find your post will be removed as we are not supposed to post links.
Luckily, I saved the contents before my contribution was removed. (I'd forgotten about not posting links on this forum) so, here's the contents without the links. Just put the titles into the search engine on YouTube and they'll come up.
Before having any further C-jabs, may I suggest you watch the following videos on YouTube:
Pfizer side effect varied with batches, a discussion between Dr John Campbell and Dr Vibeke Manniche, MD PhD.
and
Swedish Pfizer side effects, a follow up discussion between Dr John Campbell and Dr Vibeke Manniche, MD PhD.
Also,
People's blood clot survey, a discussion between Dr John Campbell and Major Tom Haviland.
I understand the reason people who have the C-jabs are more susceptible to Covid, is because the spike protean occupies their Ace2 receptors, so the immune system cannot respond effectively to new variants.
As an official guide to what the Goverment is thinking, check the NNV figures for the Autumn 2024 jabs. Search "Independent report Appendix A: estimating the number needed to vaccinate to prevent a COVID-19 hospitalisation in autumn 2024 in England Published 2 August 2024"
NNV is a measure of the jab's effectiveness, expressed as the Number of people it is Needed to Vaccinate in order to save one case of whatever "end point" is chosen (caught C19, hospitalisation, death). The NNV numbers are huge (millions) at young ages to around 4000 to 6000 for hospitalisation at age 65. NNV to prevent death at age 65 is around the 30000 to 40000 mark. All of the above are lower for immune suppressed or comorbidities.
I have taken the view that there is now a lot of solid science (papers etc) showing certainly some specific risks of the jab being used (which is not a normal vaccine) which have emerged, that those having it need a lot better stratification on the balance of their personal risks than has happened, and that the latest strains really are a lot less troublesome than the original strain. They are Omicron sub-sub-variants. With my fib risks I am not willing to continue down the path of a "vaccine" which we learn more about every day. Wait times in our local Cardiology dept, and even for private appts, have gone through the roof; what does that tell you? Not just an NHS under normal stress.
The risk of not having it is supposed to be higher than the risk of having it. Maybe so, but the NNV figures say that increased risk in miniscule, especially for the young. Best thing to do is eat well, sleep well, gentle exercise, take Vitamin D unless you can regularly get sun on a large area of skin (if you live in Greece, say), and avoid unnecessary large or close gatherings.
p.s. mathematically, the absolute risk reduction is the reciprocal of NNV. So if the NNV is 2000, the jab will provide a risk *reduction* of 1/2000= 0.0005, or 0.05%
Wow. That is really interesting. Thank you
I thought so too. Interesting to identify the NNVs which correspond to the current UK recommendations: 65 & over & healthy, immune suppressed any age, comorbidities. I think they're using around 2,000 as a cut off. Interesting too that the USA clearly don't agree as they are stating babies over 6 months, which I'm sure have NNVs in the millions too. Too much biopharmaceutical industry influence there.
I’m not having the covid vac any more. The last twice at least I was so ill with my afib/tachycardia it messed up my pacemaker for a while.
A vaccine is supposed to elicit an immune response, which might in turn cause a slightly increased susceptibility to afib. There is nothing mysterious or nefarious going on. It seems likely that anxiety, built partly from all the stories circulating about covid vaccines would account for most of the afib. Vaccines in general save a lot of lives from infectious diseases, like measles and polio, which used to kill or cripple so many children, to covid, which killed so many susceptible people worldwide.
AF within a couple of days of covid jab. 18 months on still there. Also detached retina same time - consultant confirmed cause from inflammatory indicators
Don't get it!
I feel different post ablation
Return to work on 10th day post ablation
Serves me right, I was speaking to soon .For those who have read anything I have written over the last few days will know I have been free 
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