Hi everyone can you tell me if Monosodium Glutonate and other E numbers can bring on an A Fib attack. I havent had an attack for 7 months, but yesterday ate something that was loaded with e numbers, without realising it and last night had an attack.My Husband said I am talking rubbish, but it makes you wonder if this could be the case.
Thank you, Jenny
Most certainly. Monosodium glutonate a well known trigger for many but not all.
Artificial sweeteners, preservatives, mono sodium glutamate - avoid them all!
I avoid all artificial additives, they're a sure trigger for AF with me. For instance I refuse to take 1mg warfarin tablets that contain Amaranth E123 (look it up online) and ask for the 0.5mg. Not all 1mg Warfarin contain it. That additive is banned in the US.
What are the symptoms of MSG intolerance?
Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Food Intolerance Information ...
Symptoms, if they occur, are usually mild and go away in a short time:
Flushing.
Headache.
Muscle aches.
Numbness or burning in or around the mouth.
Heart palpitations.
Tingling.
Drowsiness.
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Take care
Jean
I want to add to what Jean is saying. I read the book Wheat Belly and Wheat Belly total Health I recommend the second book as it repeats a lot of the first book but with some really great information. What I learned and I share this with many people yet they don't seem to understand the connection between MSG and wheat gluten. He explains it very well. Both, MSG and Wheat Gluten have a very similar chemical composition, which the body can't tell the difference. One is a left handed chemical formula and one is right handed formula, otherwise they are exactly the same. The body doesn't know the difference. Bingo! If MSG affects you so will all wheat products. They both create inflammation in the body. For me it was Migraines, and Heart issues, they seemed to go together. I would feel the flutter or the AF and I knew I would end up with a 3 or 4 day migraine.
I encourage everyone to experiment with their food intake and watch the MSG and the wheat and know that wheat is in everything.
My husband loves licorice, when we looked at the ingredients Wheat was the first one. With added flavoring. who knew it was flavored wheat! So much to learn.
It could. Or it could have been another trigger. Or it may have been coincidence.
Hi Attic,
After my ablation for Afib, I was good for six months —— then fell back into Afib unexpectedly, (this was a few weeks ago). I did everything I usually do on that day, I walked, no alcholol, BUT I broke my diet and ate a takeaway from a Chinese restaurant and yeah, msg laden.
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Im back in normal rhythm after a cardio version —- then a week later return to doses of metopropol and a magnesium drip.
Good luck!
xxx
Hi Attic I also have an intolerance to MSG and ended up in A&E twice after eating Chinese food my heart went crazy with ectopics and tightness in my head and chest, needless to say I check all labels and no processed foods for me!
I’m sure that was one of the first things I learnt to avoid! It is welll known that it’s not a good idea for us.
Not all E numbers are artificial.Many of them are natural food stuffs that can be used to add colour , flavouring, preservative, or thickening, to a shop bought item, but they are probably also in your usual diet in other forms.
But certain E numbers and sweeteners are artificial.
They are usually the ones to avoid because they can cause a higher heart rate , hypersensitivity , tummy aches , toilet issues and headaches in quite a lot of people even if those people don't have health problems.
These are the ones it is better to check for and avoid because they are more likely to be a trigger , and they aren't great for your body in general.
You can get a list of artificial E numbers from the internet and keep an eye out for them.
And obviously, the E numbers seldom cause the problem on their own.
If the product also contained a lot of sugar , "empty" carbs (basically the ones without fibre that make your blood sugar race up then plummet) or large amounts of caffeine, or things that might interact with your medication like gingers , garlic etc. that could be the main cause of the problem.
MSG is a funny one , much like caffeine, some people are hypersensitivity to it, some people have no issues , some people are desensitized to it and if it wasn't unhealthy to do so for other reasons could have it all day long .
The only way to be sure with things that could be a trigger like MSG or caffeine is to carefully test out a small amount of a food or drink with it in which doesn't contain other trigger ingredients.
If it's ok you build up to a whole drink or sensible portion. You can often find that you can stomach a small level of these things without causing symptoms even if you can't manage an average one.
We are all going to occasionally want a quick bite or drink in an Emergency or to eat out , or sometimes we want a rare treat. It's normal but we can do things to prevent that odd treat or food change make us pay for it later.
A good thing to do just sitting at home in the evening is to work out which sweet and savoury snacks of the types you might want only include natural E numbers , little or no caffeine, less sugar and more fibre and protein so we can make sensible choices when we get to the counter when we are out.
It's also quite good to do this by looking at the menus for places we would want to get a quick drink or bite at. Most restaurants, coffee shops and takeaways have websites listing their products , many also include ingredients, warnings of tricky allergens, and nutritional values. It can save a lot of pain when you go out to eat with friends and help you to make virtually guilt free choices when you do just need to grab a sandwich, snack bar, or want a coffee and something sweet.
I avoid Chinese restaurants now as I feel "off " in my digestion for several days after eating in one. I have no trouble with using Thai or Indian pastes when cooking at home. Nor with soy sauce. This is maybe an age thing as when I was younger I had no problems and often ate in the excellent restaurants in Birmingham and Manchester Chinatowns.
Certainly an instant trigger for me even if I don't know it is in a food.
I would say that logic and science would point to the likelihood that the cause lay elsewhere than E numbers.
I'd think it more likely this was either coincidence, the paroxysmal nature of AF, or the meal itself causing some physical movement of the stomach and mildly irritating the heart itself, sitting as it does atop the diaphragm.
Steve
major side effect of msg—irregular heart rhythms. Google it!!
For me, monosodium glutamate and artificial sweeteners can bring on an AFib episode.
E P.
Trip to A&E in AF
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