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Name of a beta blocker with less side effects!

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Beta blocker that you like with less side effects!

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mjames1

That Beta Blocker is called DE for Doesn't Exist. 😁

Speak to your doctor about trying the calcium channel blocker, Diltiazem. It essentially serves the same function as a beta blocker, but for many of us, it has less side effects.

Jim

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BaileyC57 in reply to mjames1

I was on that for two months and made me dizzy! I would be walking down my hallway and just about fall over with dizziness!

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mjames1 in reply to BaileyC57

That just goes to show you how we all react differently with drugs. I was also dizzy on Diltiazen for about two weeks, but now I don't even know I'm taking it. I did find the fast release form a little better but my understanding is that it's not available in the UK. Still I think it's a good next choice for many if they cannot tolerate beta blockers..

Jim

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BaileyC57 in reply to mjames1

Other than making me dizzy , it was a good drug! I took it for two months and I was still dizzy! I wish I could have taken it but I was afraid if I was driving I might get into a reck!

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mjames1 in reply to BaileyC57

What dose were you on? Did you have a significant drop in blood pressure on it? Were you taking any other blood pressure medication's at the same time?

Jim

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BaileyC57 in reply to mjames1

I was taken Metroplolo for four years for AFIB and blood pressure ! It upset my stomach, and I had brain fog with this drug! Four days ago I started Nebivolol hope this works okay! So far heart rate good and blood pressure good! I just hope I DO not get weird side effects from this drug! I do not have good luck with drugs because of the side effects!

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JOY2THEWORLD49 in reply to BaileyC57

Hi

I was dizzy on Diltiazem 180mg 1/2 dose.

But 120mg just right 60s Day and remain Night avg at 47.

Metropolol 185

Bisoprolol 156

both not controlling H/Rate.

You must separate BB and CCB.

cheri Joy

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Rainfern

I have always found propranolol very useful but it’s a bit of an old fashioned medication and not all GPs prescribe it for AF. My EP was very happy for me to have this for when my persistent AF started running riot, which it did just occasionally. I requested it as it helped me eons ago for a brief spell of panic attacks.

I have it as pill in pocket and the longest I’ve taken it for was about a fortnight. Never had any side effects. I don’t need them now but hang on to a box of them just in case.

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Ducky2003 in reply to Rainfern

Interesting, as my EP prescribed it last August, even though I hadn't had an AF attack for 18 months at that point and no BP issues. I did question why he was suggesting another medication for no apparent reason. I was/am on a waiting list for a valve repair and said he thought the extra tablet would be good for me.To be honest, I haven't taken them, as I'd read the potential side effects and I was feeling great so didn't want to risk messing with that.

Not sure why he wanted me to take the Propanolol.

Back in AF, after 2 years free, so having cardioversion this coming week so wondering whether I should start taking them in the meantime.🤔

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Rainfern in reply to Ducky2003

I would definitely need an explanation for why a medication is being prescribed. Id want to know if they were prescribing for heart, anxiety or simply because there’s evidence it improves the chances of a successful cv.

It’s worth bearing in mind that all medications come with a horrendous list of potential side effects. (It’s a pity the same legal requirements are not applied to high processed foods!) This doesn’t mean you’ll suffer any of them and you’ll only find out by taking them. My EP prescribed digoxin for a few months prior to a cv and I loved it because it made me less breathless, slowed heart rate slightly without reducing BP (my BP was already good). Other people have found it awful. Unfortunately we often don’t know until we’ve tried. But I had a lot of trust in my EP and was happy to go along with his suggestions, provided I had a clear explanation.

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Ducky2003 in reply to Rainfern

This wasn't to aid the impending DCCV, it was last August when I'd been in nsr for 18 months.I said why tinker, when I was doing well and his answer was "I want to keep you well"......... any further explanation was not forthcoming so I didn't keep pushing for it.

My BP has always been ok and no anxiety issues, so, rightly or wrongly, I made an executive decision not to take the Propranolol.

I'm on Amiodarone so not a stranger to possible side effects but I wasn't keen to add yet another med which could cause problems.

It's all a bloomin minefield.😩

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Rainfern in reply to Ducky2003

Yep, it sure is a minefield! I think you made the right choice and you’re already on a whopper of a drug with amiodorone. (I was on it 3 months, no side effects but missed out on sunshine!) Good luck with the DCCV.

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Ducky2003 in reply to Rainfern

Thanks. I've been on and off Amiodarone for a few years and only side effect I've had, that I'm aware of is, vortex keratopathy.

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Beater in reply to Ducky2003

Yup! Good decision. Bisoprolol was the beginning of the end for me after needing open heart surgery after the jab. 11 months on it and couldn't get out of bed without passing out. Dr.s refusing to return calls and all using covid as an excuse to all their negligence. Cardiologist refused to see me for 4 months after surgeon instructed she see me in 4 weeks. I'm still bedridden with an atrophied back now and hooked on 2 meds now. They are just as bad as benzos for many people and never stop them abruptly.

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Ducky2003 in reply to Beater

I only lasted on Bisoprolol for 3 months and after being breathless and like a zombie, I insisted on the cardiologist changing me over to Diltiazem and been fine with that.Seeing an EP is always better than a general cardiologist but in these times, folk are luck to see either.

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Beater in reply to Ducky2003

I was literally passing out after a bowel movement and she wouldn't return my Dr. or my calls for 11 months. I went down to 98lbs and collapsed in the street and ended up back in hospital on more bad medications and I am still bedridden and in pain 7/24 as my CNS is damaged now. I wish that I never had the surgery and just let nature take it's course as I have no quality of life now.

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TopBiscuit in reply to Rainfern

I take Propranolol as a PiP too. I'm very sensitive to medications in general and I couldn't tolerate even the lowest does of Bisoprolol at all so I requested Propranolol as I've taken it in the past for anxiety when I had Labyrinthitus and I have zero ill effects from it. It works well for me. I sometimes take it when my heart is feeling a bit wobbly which it does often before an episode of AFib and that seems to calm things down too.

My regular HR is on the low normal side and Propranolol 10mgs isn't too strong.

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Ennasti

I’ve been on metropolol, bisoprolol, atenolol and now carvedilol. Carvedilol has been the best for me so far. We’re all different though.

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BaileyC57 in reply to Ennasti

Thank you for your input!

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BaileyC57 in reply to Ennasti

My friend takes Carvedilol and she likes it!

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Eater in reply to Ennasti

Tablets

I took blood thinners with meds. Ithink blood thinner might be the culprit so I am taking them when I get in.,so far I feel myself again blood thinner makes me tired and lazy.

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Poochmom

I started off with Metropolol and it made me so tired and lethargic. I switched to Nebivolol and have had zero side effects. I was on 5 mg once a day, now on 2.5 mg since my minimaze only because my resting hr is higher than I would like at about 75. I am waiting until it comes down to around 70 to discontinue it. But no problems whatsoever.

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Eater in reply to Poochmom

I have discovered I am on 1.25 when I should be on 5 ,one has a shorter life taking, too little or is it a rumour? but I can’t take 5.I wander if anyone tokes blood thinners with medication,I think it might be the culprit of feeling ugh.

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Poochmom in reply to Eater

Nebivolol must have a longer half life because I only take it once a day in the morning and I take it with the rest of my meds. I can no longer take 5 mg since my minimaze surgery because it makes me dizzy and discombobulated. Never had a problem with that dosage prior to surgery. But the 2.5 is perfect now.

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BaileyC57 in reply to Poochmom

If Nebivolol works , why discontinue it because your HR might go up again! I have AFIB!

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Poochmom in reply to BaileyC57

Yes agreed. I no longer have AFib. It I am not adverse to staying on the beta blocker.

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CDreamer

I couldn’t tolerate anything and felt SO much better without drugs.

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BaileyC57 in reply to CDreamer

Do you have AFIB? I have to have one for my heart rate! Without any beta blocker my heart rate would go way over 100 !

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Ducky2003

Shame about the Diltiazem as that's what was better for me.

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JOY2THEWORLD49

Hi

Metoprolol with AF or Asthma - NO. Breathless and pauses.

Bisoprolol OK PM 2.5mg no breathless or pauses but only controls my BP not Heart Rate.

CCB Calcium Channel Blocker Diltiazem 120mg AM slow release for Heart Rate Control.

Can't take ACE Blockers.

cheri Joy. 75. (NZ)

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localad

Sotalol for me.

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Cavalierrubie

l can’t tolerate any. Worse than AF. I am so much better without them and just take anticoagulant.

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BaileyC57 in reply to Cavalierrubie

Do you have any AFIB , high heart beats? Asking because you went off from all of them except your blood thinner!

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Cavalierrubie in reply to BaileyC57

Hi, l was unable to take any of the drugs regularly as they made me very sick. I have PIP Bisoprolol 1.25mg which l have only used 3/4times. My AF improved with diet and lifestyle changes. Magnesium and vitamin B12 had the most effect for me. We are all different, so what works for one doesn’t necessarily work for another. It has taken about 3 years to get to this point. You have to listen to your body and everything is trial and error. There is no cure but you can help yourself by doing that. When l was first diagnosed, yes, l had high heart rate and blood pressure, but high anxiety of the condition played a big part. If you relax, and tell yourself it has happened before and you are not going to die, it makes such a big difference. There is no miracle cure. I am better without the drugs, but that probably doesn’t apply to others. They may be better with the drugs.

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BaileyC57 in reply to Cavalierrubie

Thank you for this information!

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Jctga

for me it was all about getting the lowest dosage that was reasonably effective. Metoprolol ER is my choice at 25 mg per day.

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nettecologne in reply to Jctga

this. Lowest dose effective works for me, no matter what BB.

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Jctga in reply to nettecologne

There are degrees of effectiveness for me. I’d rather put up with reduced symptoms rather than the lack of, so that I can feel somewhat normal. Less is always better but for some reason I’ve had to push my doctor to let me try lower dosages. No one except my internist PCP would listen and care that I felt so terribly. It’s all about QOL.

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Qualipop

I can't take bisopralol. IT drops my BP too low and I just want to sleep 24/7. I had it changed to a calcium channel blocker. I think it was called candesartan.

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Stucoo

Betablockers make me feel so cold. If it is cold outside my fingers turn white.

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BaileyC57 in reply to Stucoo

It does the same thing to me too!

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amajul

Nebivolol (Bystolic) is the best for me and I've tried them all.

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Dollcollector

I take Nebivolol. The side effects aren't as bad as bisopropol although any beta blocker will slow you down.

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CoconutBob

I took atenolol for years and then it turned on me and made me very depressed. After jumping from one thing to another I have finally settled on 2.5 mg bisoprolol, 2.5 mg amlodipine and 12.5 mg hydrochlorothiazide. I split them all and take 1/2 dose of each in the morning with 1/2 banana and the rest at 2 PM. Seems to be working OK. I have a pacemaker and HR is always in the mid sixties and BP is well controlled.

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Ozette

Bystolic is a "cleaner" drug that I took for quite while. Since my AV Node Ablation I am no longer on a Beta Blocker

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Magson

I am no longer on a Beta Blocker but I did take 1.25mg of Bisopropolol daily for about 2 years. Even with this small dose there were side effects. Glad to get rid of it. Lowered my HR to mid 30's in the early hours which caused more AF.

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fibnum

All I can add is that after taking metoprolol 100 mg for 2 years, I cut back to 50 mg a year and a half ago, and my IQ seemed to increase markedly. I need all the points I can get!

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nettecologne

With me it seeems to be mostly dose dependant. Was on Sotalol as pill in pocket for years. When AF got permanent during hyperthyroidism in 2020, Sotalol on highest dose did not get my heart rate down any more. Bisoprolol worked, but had to reduce extremely, as got intermittent claudication. They looked for clots, but of course none there. I reduced and no more pain in leg when walking. I am now on a baby dose, 3/4 of an 2,5 mg pill. That is nothing, according to docs, but it is enough for me to keep pulse in the 90s, lower I do not go. And more BB means more side effects. I have to be able to walk, I have to be able to think and feel.

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