I month taking triple magnesium and no incidents of afib.

[Bikedennis]

Really don't know if it a fluke or real , but I was having random afib with rapid HR. Now I have none. Taurate, glycinate, and malate. Anyone else have this experience?

[Slm1476764]

Morning, I have a very high burden of ectopic ÷22% and months ago read on this forum that Magnesium Taurate can help. I have been taking it and it has helped enormously, I am hardly aware of them now. I don't know if there is scientific proof behind this and I assume my burden is still high but it has stopped me being so aware of them.

[OzJames]

Firstly I had my levels of Magnesium, Vitd3 and CoQ10 checked and found I was low in both Mag and CoQ10 the Vitd3 was just below the middle of normal. After 9 months of supplements has brought my levels of Vitd3 and Mag to middle level of normal range and CoQ10 just at the bottom level of normal. I will increase my CoQ10 a little. I’ve had one AF episode since December at the end of September and had cardioversion. So far so good. Btw I’m taking one taurate 130mg late morning and Bisglycinate 200mg at night. Everyone’s levels are different so that’s why you need to get bloods checked.. unfortunately the additional bloods might cost extra

[Autumn_Leaves in reply to OzJames]

What magnesium test did you have? Was it serum magnesium or another test?

[OzJames in reply to Autumn_Leaves]

It was the serum test. It’s not the most accurate as we only store about 1% of magnesium in our blood.. the rest is in our bones, tissue etc… however it still provides an indication of our levels. There is a more accurate blood test, RBC which I may ask for next time i do blood tests

[Autumn_Leaves in reply to OzJames]

My serum magnesium tends towards the upper end of the range when tested but as you say, it may not be an indicator of magnesium deficiency or being magnesium replete. In the past I took magnesium to see if it could reduce my ectopic burden but I didn’t find it made any difference and I thought they may possibly have made them worse, but ectopics can be random and fluctuate a lot so it’s hard to judge.

[OzJames in reply to Autumn_Leaves]

I’ve read that too much magnesium can cause certain arythmia. I take the taurate separately to glycinate and believe that has helped with ectopics. I also find the Vitd3 helps though too much can deplete the magnesium… everything is a balancing act and we all require different amounts, it’s not just take 200mg and it will help…. so readers should be mindful of this

[Autumn_Leaves in reply to OzJames]

I’ve taken D3 for many years, before AF and even before my ectopics became a problem, so it hasn’t been able to prevent anything progressing. Having said that, I was doing really well and my ectopics had calmed down to a trivial level and no episodes of AF all year. I had changed absolutely nothing. That period of calm ended when I went down with Covid. Relaxation, breathing techniques and mindfulness are very helpful I find, not to actively control symptoms, but to switch the body into rest and repair mode, which I think we all need to do every day anyway.

[OzJames in reply to Autumn_Leaves]

well said….. it’s about balancing the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems to reduce recurrence of AF

[Autumn_Leaves in reply to OzJames]

Yes. I feel that so much of the focus is on being in/not being in AF when we really need to be focusing on our general wellbeing.

[cockerfarley]

Mag Taurate helped me I'm convinced of that.

[Ppiman]

The chances of its not being a fluke are slim as despite, many studies, there's been no evidence yet found that oral Mg can stop arrhythmias. It is, though, safe and quite popular thanks to the internet and some doctors. Do try to believe in it as placebo effects can do wonders in up to a third of people and are vastly under-rated.

My own experience of PAF is that it is so variable, coming and going for no apparent reason, that it is one of those illnesses that causes us to look for and find a wide range of things that either trigger it or stop it.

Steve

[JoniM in reply to Ppiman]

And yet…..a relationship between magnesium and afib has been found which is why IV magnesium has been used in surgical patients to prevent afib, and a few studies have shown rel between low magnesium and afib (eg, Framingham heart study). Most studies I see end with “ a need for larger scale studies” which don’t seem to be happening . From the research I’ve seen, I’m not convinced the oral use of magnesium for preventing or ameliorating afib has been studied to the point of being able to say it is simply placebo. My cynical mind says there is just not enough money to be made in researching the issue and in general the medical field tends to not focus on prevention. Bottom line Steve, and sorry for being long winded, I don’t disagree that the relationship has not been empirically established, and I also agree that the placebo effect is real. But I would not go as far as to discourage people from taking magnesium based on the lack of sound research. As you note, it seems fairly safe and one is always making a risk/benefit analysis with any drugs or supplements.

[Bikedennis in reply to JoniM]

FWIW, I'm the original poster and I started taking the the triple Mg. to help me sleep. I had no expectation of helping my afib. This should negate the placebo effect. BTW, it does help with sleep.

[Ppiman in reply to JoniM]

I wish it did work. I truly think it is a placebo effect when it does seem to work. Also it surely must he said that PAF is so hard to pin down to a link with anything ingested other than drugs that directly affect the heart that to claim a definite effect is, well, unlikely to be meaningful.

I have lost the links but I’ve searched hard on all data bases I could and did find several studies that tried to show oral Mg reducing arrhythmias but none showed any meaningful effect. I know some specialists promote it online but I find they offer no clinical support for the claim. IV Mg works differently (I.e. it’s not a deficiency of Mg). Mg stores are vast in the body and homeostasis works hard to maintain levels.

I remain dubious but always thinks it safe so worth trying.

Steve

[OzJames in reply to JoniM]

Yes my son works in Emergency at a major hospital and they give IV Mg for AF in mega dosage as the first non invasive measure. I’m not sure why more extensive Trials are not conducted on long term use of Mg and same applies to CoQ10 and VD3 I guess there’s no funding available as distinct to big Pharma putting in millions for their drug trials

[Silky57]

I’m not been in AF for a year, but I did have a high burden of ectopics. My EP suggested anecdotal evidence, both scientific and via his other patients, for magnesium and I now take magnesium taurate daily. My ectopic burden has dropped markedly.

[Brizzy50000]

Had my ablation over 5 years ago and had a lot of ectopic episodes after, been taking magnesium turate for over 4 years and they are now nearly non existence

[KMRobbo]

Lots of people report this. There are books on amazon about it from personal experiences. I read oneIf it works keep doing it!

I doubt there wil never be a detailed clinical trial specifically for this. Big pharma would sooner sell you expensive drugs to keep symptoms at bay forever, rather than conclude a cheap tablet can cure you.

I believe the blood test on magnesium is not absolutely relevant , its the cellular masgnesium thats important.

I am not medically trained.

[MiniMeGreen]

My cardiologist suggested a Mg-complex as adjuvant therapy. I tried it and stopped it within a week as I got very painful calf cramps. The cramps stopped quickly, what a relief 😅.

[healingharpist in reply to MiniMeGreen]

Now that is interesting. You probably know, Mg is always prescribed for calf & leg cramps; I've used the spray-on Mg for calf cramps & it stops them almost immediately! We're all so different.

[Peacefulneedshelp]

Magnesium is part of the electrolytes that we need so yes that is great news. Our body systems are so interwoven that we truly don’t understand and we do ourselves harm by not understanding it all. I have just learned that if we don’t eat enough of all the macro nutrients our body will compensate by raising cortisol. Cortisol is the stress hormone and we all are affected by stress. However, I didn’t know I could bring it on myself. So I am paying closer attention to more balance in my meals.

Keep us posted on adding magnesium.

[Trish5]

Has Dr Sanjay Gupta from York Cardiologie not done a video on the subject of magnesium and its effects on Afib?