forgetfulness

[Electricblue1]

Hello all, hope you are all keeping well, I’m on bisoprolol 2.5 , Flecainide 50 mg and Edoxoban 60 mg and I’m wondering if anyone has intermittent episodes of forgetfulness, it’s really frightening me as I get moments where i have complete mind blanks and I’m worried it’s me loosing my mind or if it’s the medication. I would love to here from anyone else who has this and if it’s normal.

[jeanjeannie50]

Yes, I'm exactly the same with periods of forgetfulness and yes it is worrying! My daughter kindly said to me the other day, Mum you must admit you are getting more forgetful lately. I agreed with her. I feel I go through spells of great alertness and then others of being slow and forgetful, at times it feels like I'm two different people.

I've had both a CT and MRI brain scan recently and the doctor I saw at hospital said I had an unusually healthy brain and if he has one like that at my age he'll be very pleased. They can tell by how much the brain has shrunk within the skull and mine hasn't much.

Is this just how getting old is?

Jean

[Electricblue1 in reply to jeanjeannie50]

hi, yes I’m the same at the moment I feel normal but for the last two weeks I’ve been really emotional and can’t remember anything, I want to come off of bisoprolol but don’t know what to ask for next.

[jeanjeannie50 in reply to Electricblue1]

Lots of people on this forum sing the praises of Nebivolol.

[Electricblue1 in reply to jeanjeannie50]

Hi, is that a beta blocker, since I’ve been on beta blockers my hair is thin I’ve memory problems it’s horrible.

[jeanjeannie50 in reply to Electricblue1]

I was on the beta blocker Bisoprolol, but I'm now taking Metoprolol. They're both as bad a each other. I've come to the conclusion that tablets that slow the heart, slow the mind too.

[CDreamer]

All I can say is it improved 10 fold after stopping Bisoprolol 🤷

[Electricblue1 in reply to CDreamer]

Hi yes it’s very worrying, I have episodes of brain fog and also being really emotional then it stops.

[Gumbie_Cat]

I’m on 5mg Bisoprolol per day, and I do feel that I have more ‘brain fog’. Takes a bit longer to recall words sometimes etc.

[KMRobbo]

Over the period I had AFib I tried 4 rate control drugs:Bisoprol

Atenolol

Verapamil

Diltiazem

Only the Verapamil had zero side effects on term of memory and brain fog.

However I was on a quite low dose of that.

[Electricblue1 in reply to KMRobbo]

That’s interesting, did verapamil have any side effects.

[Swimsyroke]

I've been on bisopropol 2.5 for nearly 2 years and am very concerned about brain fog and forgetfulness.

CDreamer you said you stopped Bisopropol. What did you change to and did it resolve the situation?

[CDreamer in reply to Swimsyroke]

I stopped all the heart drugs and felt much better - but that was after 2ablations and a pacemaker implant.

[Buffafly]

Yes 😶‍🌫️

[JOY2THEWORLD49]

Hi

We all age.

I tend to have lists.

But I drove to my test site for a job on elections day, forgot to take the recyling bottles and tests and forgot my shopping list.

I reuse envelopes.

I take Bisoprolol. And I take throxine early every morning, 1 hr later Diltiazem and at 10am my 110mg PRADAXA.

Make sure you get 7-8 hours of great sleep.

Have you been tested for B12 and folate - another way of becoming anaemic. I keep my level @ 700. I take 1 nugget 2 or 3 days a week SOLGAR 1,000ug. In 2010 I was diagnosed B12 deficiency. Gall Bladder removed 2000. It had disintergrated.

Have a full blood test including B12.

Check because a urine infection will make you forgetful.

cheri JOY. 74. (NZ)

[Electricblue1 in reply to JOY2THEWORLD49]

Thank you , I haven’t had a check for B 12 or folate, I will get it tested.

[KMRobbo]

I did not tolerate Bisoprolol nor Atenolol ( esp the former) so my GP decided all beta blockers were a bad idea for me so out me on Verapamil a CCB.

Verapamil had no side effects whatever for me. However my Afib progressed. My Afib was always high rate 165bpm plus , and it got more and more difficult to halt.

Eventually I had an 8 day session 165 to 195 resting and I only got cardioverted with intravenous flecainide in the Hospital Coronary Care unit.

Then i was put on twice a day flecainide tablets as rhythm contol,

They took me off verapamil (extended release) 120mg and put me on diltiazem 200mg as they said the verapamil was not controlling my rate well enough. However the only time I missed a dose of the the ditiazem ( in an evening) i got up the following morning and 2nd step of the stairs going down my hr went to 165bpm and diltiazem could not rate control me either!

So I think the verapamil was no worse than diltiazem but no side effects.

I was on 120mg modified release but the cardiologist I had as a one-off let me experiment with doses so gave be a bottle of 40mg standard release tabs ( so take 1 x 40 every 8 hours in normal use rather than 1 x 120 mg extended)but i used them as well as the 120mg so if i felt my heart being a bit odd I took a 40 mg or two to get more rate control. This was only sucessful at the start of an episode once really, but as I say I usually went from 70 to 165bpm in 8 seconds.

So worth a try I would say.

[pip_pip]

I think Flecainide is the culprit. When I was given this drug a few years ago, after two doses I blanked out and found myself in hospital yet again, with a higher hr than I had before. I do not remember at all what happened. Flecainide poisoning I was told, as shown on my medical records.

Phil