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Second go at sending the ecgs.

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mjames1

No medical training, so please do not make any decisions based on what I say, or anyone else here for that matter about these ekg's.

That said, the quality of your scans are not great, so unclear if the first ekg is bigeminy or afib, but I'll go with bigeminy although not perfect bigeminy. The second looks like normal rhythm.

"DrDave(x)" posts here sometimes and he's a real doctor and also founder of Kardia. Maybe he will see your post and give you a more definitive answer. You also might want to email it to your ep and/or to Kardia's own cardiologists if you have that service where you live.

Jim

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Sambaqui in reply to mjames1

No, I won't make any decisions but it's nice to have your thoughts and to learn a bit about bigeminy - even if not perfect bigeminy. l'll send the ecgs to the nurses at Barts and see what they make of them.

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mjames1 in reply to Sambaqui

Perfect!

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Sixtyslidogirl

again, I am not a medical personal at all and only have my own ecgs for comparison and agree with mjames1. Is Bigeminy the same as premature atrial complexes (PACs?) or ectopics? Looks like one premature beat and a catch up in sequence.

Just read your other post about the anxious feeling and would say that I have that feeling when I am having too many ectopics.

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Ppiman

The top one shows that a normal signal from your heart's own atrial "pacemaker" is present (a tiny bump before the spike), which, if is, means that this isn't AF but shows a run of ectopic beats. These are a ventricular contraction ("heartbeat") that is harmless but doesn't feel that way; it is a beat that comes in a little early (a premature beat - atrial (PAC) or ventricular (PVC) - which causes the next beat to be a little delayed (a "compensatory pause"). This leads to a temporarily irregular heartbeat and a feeling of palpitations with a "thump" type feeling in the chest, neck or elsewhere.

Steve

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Sambaqui in reply to Ppiman

Thank you all for your responses and information. The complexities and fragilities of rhythm, eh, and just how important it is for our feeling of well-being. It’s also fascinating and I’d like to learn more about it and how to read the wiggly line with more understanding. I wonder is there an equivalent to Kardia that can distinguish between AF and these other arrhythmias - preferably not too big or too expensive.

All the best with your own bumps and spikes.

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Sixtyslidogirl

Thanks. So the gemini bit is when there is a repeating pattern?

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Ppiman

The one I have recently begun to use is made by a company called Viacom, but sold in the UK by Wellue. They do two home devices (and I bought both as the smaller one wasn't available originally). One can take reading of 30sec / 1min / 5mins and the other can take readings from 5mins up to 24 hours. Both provide a whole range of data with no ongoing monthly fee using an AI form of technology that seems entirely useful and accurate. The range of information they provide is amazing and I find very interesting and useful. Amazon sells them both, also, but the smaller one from Amazon seems not to have AI, and both cost far less when ordered direct from the website. I got a good discount on top, bring the prices down to about £70.00 for the handheld, and £170 for the 24-hour one.

Steve

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Sambaqui in reply to Ppiman

Thanks, Steve. Sounds good. I'll take a look.

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Ppiman

The handheld works with a mobile phone using Bluetooth to connect from the app, you have to click on "AI analysis" to see the full report. It takes a few seconds to do that. The 24-hour devices uses software on a laptop.

Steve

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