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Nervous to take supplements

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After reading on here for sometime now, how some of you feel you benefit from taking Magnesium Taurate, I have finally bought some, but it’s been sitting in the cupboard for two days because to be honest I am nervous to take it, especially of course as with most things it’s say consult your healthcare provider prior, (chance would be a fine thing) 😕Just wondering if anyone else struggles with this issue ? 

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Autumn_Leaves profile image
Autumn_Leaves

I don’t take magnesium supplements because firstly, they don’t make any difference to my arrhythmias, and secondly, I consume enough magnesium-containing foods. Magnesium supplements are safe enough so they won’t do you any harm provided you stay within the recommended limits. Dietary sources of magnesium include pumpkin seeds, chia seeds, almonds, cashews, spinach, bananas, oats, beans and lentils. If you believe it will be easier just to take a pill, you can do that. If you enjoy your food and you have access to good quality/nutrient dense food you can do that way. There’s no good/bad right/wrong way. The supplement won’t harm you and if it helps, fantastic. There’s no harm in trying.

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sugaredalmonds in reply to Autumn_Leaves

Thank you for your reply,

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jeanjeannie50

Here is a talk by Dr Sanjay Gupta a Consultant Cardiologist at York Hospital in the UK.

youtube.com/watch?v=q1MD4FD...

I have Atrial Fibrillation and it is so much better since I've been taking Magnesium alongside Taurine.

Jean

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sugaredalmonds in reply to jeanjeannie50

Thank you for take the time to reply, much appreciated, my apologies for the time it has taken me to respond.

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JudiHalf

I take magnesium taurate, no idea if it does any good, just makes me feel better(placebo effect maybe),

I just take one capsule a day rather than 2as they are quite expensive, I was nervous of taking them but I have been fine, no side effects at all.

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sugaredalmonds in reply to JudiHalf

Thank you for take the time to reply, much appreciated, my apologies for the time it has taken me to respond.

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Ppiman

I can say that I have read as widely as I can about magnesium supplementation and found it to be entirely safe to take. Only a tiny amount of magnesium is absorbed with the remainder excreted in the large bowel, so expect gurgling from higher doses.

However, it is equally true to say that I haven't been able to find any worthwhile scientific evidence that shows a useful effect. I tried it myself for many months without any side effects at all, but with zero useful effect. My own doctor said he wasn't surprised. I know some cardiologists recommend trying it. So, my own conclusion is that giving it a go is worthwhile since some here do speak highly of it.

Steve

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sugaredalmonds in reply to Ppiman

Thank you for take the time to reply, much appreciated, my apologies for the time it has taken me to respond.

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momist

I guess this is a question about trust. Did you choose a manufacturer that you think you can trust? Do you trust the sources of information that led you to buying them in the first place? You you trust Dr. Gupta?

The answer to those questions in my own case is "Yes". I'm taking Solgar Magnesium Citrate 1000mg, mainly as this is the brand I started with when I bought them from the health food shop I was using in my nearest town. Now, I don't go into town very often, so I'm having them delivered by Amazon. I also use Nature's Aid for some other supplements I also take.

I now take two a day, as any more than that makes my bowel unacceptably loose, and any less doesn't seem to have much effect. I don't know any more than you do, but I trust the science, and what I've read in many different places about the soil depletion in modern farming and the problems introduced by factory farming and food processing. YMMV, as they say.

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sugaredalmonds in reply to momist

Thank you for take the time to reply, much appreciated, my apologies for the time it has taken me to respond.

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Brizzy50000

I take magnesium turate, suffered from a lot of ectopic's after my ablation 5 years ago and the difference since taking them has been amazing, so I will continue, the only other meds I take are rivaroxaban

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Dippy22

I taurate for the heart/anxiety and bisglycinate for better sleep. I also take another algae mag, but not sure what that’s derived from. I also have a very healthy high veg diet. Sadly none of this has made any difference to the AFib.

Five days ago I started taking an ionised magnesium in liquid form and managed five days AFib-free - until 2am last night. 🫤 For me that’s a good result!

PS only take magnesium citrate for constipation as it will rinse through your gut.

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JOY2THEWORLD49

Hi

1st have a blood test of your level.

Over dose of Magnesium is toxic.

One reason why you should consult with your Dr.

AND there is no benefit the RESEARCHERS say with testing.

cheri JOY. 74. (NZ)

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CoconutBob

I take 2 mag taurate capsules a day and 2 mag biglycinate pills at night for sleep. Keeps me calm and helps with constipation if that bothers you. Can always back off a little if necessary.

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Tomred

Im taking mag/tau twice per day ,no problems, been on for about 3 weeks as a trial to see if it helps my afib, but im not too sure yet.

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Cholla3

That is a type of magnesium rec. by Dr. Gupta. So is magnesium citrate which I am going with because fewer pills. It does have a slight blood thinning effect and seek advice of doctor if you have kidney disease according to him. Diarrhea if take too much. Citrate might be best tolerated by tummy if I remember correctly. Thank you JeanJeannie for a very informative video.

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DawnTX

it is smart to talk to your doctor before taking anything not necessarily because of your age food but because of some other medication you might be on. I asked about CO q10 and turmeric, and he is fine with both. He said the first one might actually make me feel better regarding turmeric. He began to tell me how there are no proven science facts that it does anything I made it clear to him I was not taking it from my heart, but for it inflammation again he was fine. He is very open minded as long as, it won’t interact with what I take, etc. be aware when it comes to taking any supplement there are specific rules that go along with some of them such as when and how to take it such as mealtime no meals make sure you take some thing with fat. This is why they want you to talk to the doctor first.

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lexigirl2 in reply to DawnTX

That's wonderful you have cardiologist that supports you with supplementation. I am in US, and most of my doctors dont know very much about supplementation. They usually say I can take it, ," but it won't matter either way". I am always amazed when we are told. "Consult with your doctor prior to taking...." . I don't get it. It is a well known fact that many/most doctors get very, very little training/hours with nutrition or supplementation, and their interaction with drugs. They know next to nothing ( or superficial/glossed over) education about the positive or negative effects of the many various minerals, enzymes, herbs, vitamins, etc., that support the body to heal. So I find it to be to counter logical that I would ask my doctor for his input about something he knows so little about. It's like going to an insurance attorney, and asking their advise and recommendation when you're case is about being accused of murder....you just wouldn't do that...would you?!

I take some minerals, herbs and vitamins, and do a comprehensive research on unbiased peer reviewed studies. Then I determine if it's in my best interest to supplement. If I have doubts, I contact an herbalist or nutritionist to guide me. I tell my doctor what I'm taking, and they say, "Ok, it won't hurt or help you".

So that's my spiel...and I'm sticking to it"!

I hope you all do a little research, and/or consult a professional, that knows about nutrition and various kinds of supplements, before you rule out possible options, that if nothing else, may ultimately improve your quality of life.

Many blessings to all!

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Autumn_Leaves in reply to DawnTX

I admit I’m not mad about supplements but they have their place as long as we don’t take excessive doses or rely on them to make up for an unhealthy diet. I have a friend who eats very little and only a limited range of “safe” foods, she is like an extremely fussy child. She is so afraid of food and eating but has an almost religious belief in supplements. Bizarre. Funny you should mention turmeric because she objected to something made with what she described as “cheap” turmeric instead of saffron! Don’t know why she objects to turmeric! I like to add it to my recipes when I can.

I’m in two minds about herbal remedies. I think we have to be careful because they can be very potent, but I’m totally confident about using culinary herbs. Herbs and spices can add to our total plant diversity, which is good for our microbiome. We should be adding these to our dishes where we can. I have a recipe for a turmeric and mango lassi. It’s very simple and delicious, just mango, turmeric, kefir and cardamom. Just the thing after a hot curry on a summer evening. My poor friend just can’t enjoy these simple pleasures though.

Teas are another way of adding to our plant diversity and there are so many delicious herbal blends now. A bit expensive - or at least the ones I like are - but nice to drink AND can have various effects, some calming, some aid digestion, etc. I prefer to stay safe that way. Here in the UK there’s a big trend for foraging but we really need to know what we’re doing with foraging.

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DawnTX in reply to Autumn_Leaves

your recipe sounds delicious. Plus you’re talking moderation. Just remember everything that grows can still cause a problem at one time these for what were used for medication‘s look at digoxin, a.k.a. digitalis, a.k.a. foxglove coming out of the ground. If you’re using a supplement for carrots, etc. that’s fine, plus how many of these things could be imported from countries that still use things poisonous to protect the plantings that is why I will buy no pet food from overseas a cup of tea, etc. and yes, of course cooking herbs. Where would we be without them I am Italian I can’t imagine not having them. we are not talking average people here though we are talking about us people who are already taking some serious medication so unless you are a pharmacist, you really don’t know what you’re mixing with what or if you are taking it at the right time.

my crazy cousin sat down with Mike Cardiologist, who is now his also and had him go through everything. He puts in his mouth for supplements and meds. It was all sorted out most he was allowed to keep, but even prescribed had to be changed around because he was getting a double dose in the morning and then nothing at night because of the way he was taking them People go to school for years to learn about these things. I get really annoyed at people that want to play with their medication and then complain that they don’t feel well and did not work I’m not anyone’s mom so you all need to do what you think is right I hope you are right

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secondtry

I have been taking supplements for 10 years.

You need to accept there is some trial and error involved not just on the supplements you choose but also the daily dose level.

I was advised by a London Naturopath to take a Magnesium compound incl taurine, potassium & more together with Co Q10, which I did altering the dose over time to reflect blood test results and just listening to my body eg I recently tried cutting down on CoQ10 and started getting 'flutter type' feelings so increased it again and thankfully it stopped.

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lexigirl2 in reply to secondtry

Hi!I take same supplements and have felt similar effects when trying to cut back on my ubiquinol. I take ubiquinol because according to research it has 70% increased bioavailability than CoQ10, particularly for people over 50.

Many blessings

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secondtry in reply to lexigirl2

Thanks Lexi, I had read the same but am loath to change in case it rocks the boat!

Enjoy you day 🙏😁

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lexigirl2 in reply to secondtry

Totally get it....I am very hesitant to change anything since my ablation last August...and if I do, it is a very, very slow change! Have a great day too!⚘️

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