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Hi, I had a successful ablation December 2019 and I have been on Edoxaban ever since.

About 3 weeks ago I had extremely dark brown urine which cleared very quickly, I have had exactly the same again today. Has anyone else had the same while on Edoxaban?

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JayDJ profile image
JayDJ

What makes you think that Edoxaban has anything to do with it?

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Harvester188 in reply to JayDJ

Hi JayDJ, I only suspect Edoxaban as there is a warning to stop taking to stop taking it if you have pink, red or brown urine.

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JayDJ in reply to Harvester188

Thank you, I've been taking it for a number of years and will note that possibility. Please let us know any outcome.

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Gumbie_Cat

Could it be something you’ve eaten each time?

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Harvester188 in reply to Gumbie_Cat

Hi Gumbie Cat

I haven’t eaten anything different that may cause it.

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Gumbie_Cat in reply to Harvester188

Best to check it all out - I was just remembering a quick panic I had once, and beetroot was the culprit 🤣

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Harvester188 in reply to Gumbie_Cat

I had a panic over over 40 years ago after watching the first Exorsist film when the girl wee was green, after getting home my wee was green turned out it was the first time my mother had used blue loo in the cistern and we all know what colour blue and yellow make. Thanks for your advice I will get it checked out for sure.

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Gumbie_Cat in reply to Harvester188

🤣

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DawnTX in reply to Harvester188

😹😹

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mjames1

Very possibly blood. Easy enough to test with a simple dip stick you can get online or at the drug store. I have had same recently on Eliquis, another blood thinner. My current theory is that it's being caused by higher intensity walking workouts lately with hard soled shoes. I will switch to a softer sole and see what happens. The literature says thinners shouldn't cause blood in urine, but the literature is not always correct. Runners sometimes get blood in urine after an intense workout, even without thinners. If it continues, definitely report to your doctor, but be aware they may decide to do a per protocol blood in urine workup (at least in the US). That might include first testing for a uti, then std, then kidney function tests and/or imaging and possibly a cystoscopy and more specialized blood work. Of course, if you can safely go off thinners for a bit, that will help answer if thinners are causing blood in urine, but even if so, they still will probably check for underlying issues.

Jim

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Harvester188 in reply to mjames1

Hi mjames

I took a sample in last time but the urine was clear by then and as it happened I already had an appointment to take a blood sample to check kidney function. I live in the U.K. we get checked every 6 months for kidney function on the nhs over here, I would have heard off them by now if there were any issues with the blood sample.

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mjames1 in reply to Harvester188

If you order some urine dip sticks and use them the next time your urine turns brown, you will know whether it's blood or not.

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Harvester188 in reply to mjames1

thank you for your advise, I will do that.

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Buffafly

Get some urine sample bottles from your surgery, get a sample next time and take it straight in if you are able. Anticoagulants don’t cause bleeding but they can increase bleeding so flagging up possible internal problems. In the meantime make sure you are well hydrated.

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Ppiman

I gather that as we get older small amounts of blood in the urine are fairly normal and acceptable. I imagine it originates from the kidneys. With an anticoagulant, this can perhaps worsen, but I would certainly have my GP look into it.

Steve

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Anticoagulants do not cause bleeding but if there is an existing weakness it may make it more visible, As a male of a certain age you should discuss with your GP as it might just be a warning of something developing. Many a life saved this way.

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Harvester188 in reply to BobD

Thank you for your advice BobD, my GP has just suggested what you said and referred me to a clinic to get to the route of the cause.

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Harvester188 in reply to BobD

Hi BobD

Changing the subject here a bit, you come out with a lot of good advice on here so I will ask your opinion on the following. I have noticed a lot of people with afib take a magnesium supplement, I have been afib free for 3 years after an ablation but I did take chelated magnesium for a while but also read that the body does not absorb a great deal in this way. I am 66 years old lobster fisherman and I a make big demands on my body and had constant visits to my chiropractor, she told me to start using restoring transdermal magnesium flakes in a bath to help stop muscle spasms and I have to say the difference it has made is remarkable. I use half a 1 kg bag in a bath for 20 minutes every other day, do you think this may have potential to help someone with afib?

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Harvester188

Epsom salt baths like that are great for muscle aches. For a while a few years ago when I was doing a lot of long drives I used magnesium oil as a muscle rub to help prevent the agonising cramps I used to get after three or four hours at the wheel. Never noticed any difference to my heart but I do take magnesium citrate tables daily any way. I have just started adding in taurine to the mix as well.

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Harvester188 in reply to BobD

It was just a thought as I did not start using the flakes until after my ablation stopped the afib. I don’t know if there is any difference in them or just marketed differently but westlabs do an Epsom salts as well as the transdermal restoring magnesium flakes. I will give give the oil a go for sure, thanks.

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Harvester188

Same chemicals!

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frazeej

Brown urine is also caused from bilirubin from a possible liver issue, although the rapid clearing would weigh against this. None the less, the docs would probably do a simple blood workup for liver enzymes too. Worth at least a mention or a phone call.

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Harvester188 in reply to frazeej

Thank you frazeej, I will mention this when I visit the specialist clinic.

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DawnTX

are you drinking enough water? Often times it means you are dehydrated.

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Harvester188 in reply to DawnTX

Hi Dawn, I could have been dehydrated but not to that extent,well I don’t think so anyway.?

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DawnTX

You would be surprised how easy it is to get that way. When I have been to the hospital and on an IV, when I get home, I can’t stay out of the bathroom then I have the issue that you saw. The day of my pace, an ablate I did not even stay. I don’t know if it was my anesthesia or what it was but all my goodness it took three days to get rid of the dryness in my mouth and my body even drinking a sports drink with electrolytes. Now you might be talking a different shade of brown 😵‍💫 again we are all different. I just don’t want to see you upset if it is something that simple. When I have had blood usually it is more of an orangey color. I hope you get an answer soon feel better.🙏🏻❤️

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Harvester188 in reply to DawnTX

Thank you Dawn, there has been some good advice on here especially off BobD which tied in very much with what my GP said. I have to say this is a very good source of info from people who have been there themselves. Thanks again.

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DawnTX in reply to Harvester188

I agree, the majority of people on here have been through everything. Sometimes it’s nice to have a sounding board or to confirm what you think something is. Because we are all so different you are bound to find your answers from one of us on here. Best of luck.

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