3 months post 2nd ablation 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[mjm1971]

hi all

so I’m 3 months post my 2nd ablation

everything was perfect for first 8 weeks with NSR and resting rate of circa 60bpm

week 9 starts recordings of AF

nothing prolonged and never it seems for more than 20 mins max

the odd thing is 99% of the time If I get an AF recoding on my watch I take another recording straight after and it’s gone and I’m in NSR .

Now either my watch is faulty or my AF is playing hiding seek .

anyone else get this ??

Can AF come and go on and off every minute etc .

either way I don't think 2nd ablation has worked and I know it’s only 3 month but I’m a realist and the AF is becoming more frequent even if it’s for seconds at a time .

Your comments are always appreciated and welcomed and certainly help .

Thanks

Matt

[BobD Volunteer]

It has worked in as much as your quality of life is improved as your events, if they are AF, are less frequent and not as violent. This is good!

No doubt your EP will organise a holter monitor of some sort to see what is actually occurring but as we explain in the fact sheet many people are still improving at nine months or a year.

[mjm1971 in reply to BobD]

hi Bob

Being in NSR with a resting rate of 60bpm for first 2 months and then next 4 weeks getting more AF and a raised resting rate of 85bpm does not register as me improving

Yes I feel better than before the ablation but I don’t and won’t accept that my AF can’t be eliminated at my age and that I should accept that a better quality of life is all I can hope for

So many people get AF free ( your a perfect example and mummy Luv ) and I’m only 51 and living with the psychological aspect of walking around as a potential stroke victim like my mum is the most difficult aspect of all this for me .

Rant over and it’s not at you BOB as you are font of knowledge and have helped me immensely in my journey over the last 18 months .

Thanks

Matt

[BobD Volunteer in reply to mjm1971]

It took me three ablaatiaons before my AF was finally stopped but ten yeasr later I deveeloped atrial tachycardia and hada fourth ablation for that. Now fitted with pacemaker. If you are genetically pre disposed to arrhythmias you ending chasing shadows.

[wilsond]

HiFirstly I totally get your feelings. I was diagnosed at 52 and mum and nanna both had af strokes. First thoughts were,this is going to end badly. But neither were on anticoagulants or had ablations,or even on anti arrythmic drugs. Treatments have improved more options, etc.

Im 63 now and after a bumpy ride,in calm waters now( long may they flow lol)

Currently it sounds to me ( just solid guessing of course)as if AF is.trying to make new pathways....but failing. Contacting your EP will let you know the way forward if intervention is needed yet or investigations

Have you had your 3month followup yet? ( Im still waiting for mine after ablation 1/6/22!)

It is a weird time for many in the blanking period so may very well be to do with that.

Cant speak from experience there (🤞) dont have a smart watch but a kardia so cant.answer that one.

I would think if further intervention needed that you would be a good candidate for minimaze.

Keep your chin up mate x

[Lilypocket in reply to wilsond]

Hi

Are you still on any meds? Yes nearly 6 months after an ablation with no follow up is a bit long .

Take care x

[wilsond in reply to Lilypocket]

Yes on Flecanide 200mg a day andc1.25mg bisoprolol

[Lilypocket in reply to wilsond]

OK. Obvviously you can't come off them until your follow up.Hope all continues smoothly for you 🤞

X

[wilsond in reply to Lilypocket]

Thank you xx

[Lilypocket]

Hi

Are you still on any medication? As Bob said I think getting a Holter done ( for longer than 24hrs to catch the PAfib)is the best way to go . I had an ablation in July and will post an update at the 6 month mark as before that changes and imrovements are still taking place. Sometimes a signal might break through the ramparts so to speak and a touch up 2nd ablation sorts that. But as it seems to have worked well for the first few weeks for you I would be optimistic.

Take care

[Lenlec]

sort to hear this. It’s frustrating I imagine.

[2learn]

From own experience, with no watch etc I do not know if I go in and out of AF on a daily/weekly basis. If feel shattered I will check my pulse and BP on a BP machine and ring Doc if a problem that doesn't go away. My AF when it comes usually just stays at 130+ pulse until something is done. My impression from lots of posts is that the constant monitoring causes lots of people more stress. So is it necessary ie life threatening and if not why bother.

[Singwell]

It could be that your AF is trying to make new pathways, only time will tell. Keep a note of events, how symptomatic etc and if there was anything that might have triggered the AF. Hopefully you can discuss with your EP at your follow up. In the case of my.first ablation (which we knew right away probably hadn't worked), I still got AF every couple of months but less symptomatic. Things felt more manageable and I was conflicted about going back for my 2nd. Glad I did because the work on 3 of the pulmonary veins had been breached, so I'd probably reached my capacity for improvement. As a comparison, I'm just shy of 6 months in NSR since May, from an ablation in March. Very different. Still on meds and taking it slow.

You can only stay calm, and wait and see. Meanwhile enjoy life as much as you can.

BTW MummyLove had the Mini Maze procedure- different from an ablation