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hi, just throwing this out there….does anyone know if it’s safe to wear a magnetic bracelet when I have AFib condition?

I am still a newbie Afibber, just diagnosed 4 weeks ago and waiting for echocardiogram. I have only had 1 bad AFib episode so far, ending up in hospital etc.

But I know they can occur at any time. I have not been wearing my magnet bracelet since then but would like to start wearing it again as it helps my other issues of joint pain.

Would love to know your opinions on this.

Thanks

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BobD profile image
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Provided that you don't have a pacemaker fitted I can think of no logical reason why not but to be sure wear it on your right wrist farthest from your heart.

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intheweeds in reply to BobD

thanks thanks for replying. that's kind of what i hoped. And i will wear it on my right wrist.

not wearing a pacemaker yet. I guess that would be a problem with magnets?

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BobDVolunteer in reply to intheweeds

Pacemakers you need to be careful of things that radiate EMF like ceramic hobs. mobile phones and in my case electric welders. (Tig, Mig etc.)

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Snowgirl65 in reply to BobD

Bob -- a quick note: I wonder if the mineral Shungite would counteract the effects of EMF so as not to affect a pacemaker. It's made into bracelets, etc. and a specimen of the stone placed by a computer or SmartTV supposedly repels EMF. Just a thought...

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BobDVolunteer in reply to Snowgirl65

Seriously? Would you risk it? To be honest I have yet to find a way my gas AGA can affect my pacemaker. lol We do have a small ceramic hob for emergencies but I wouldn't use it as my arms aren't one metre long.

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Snowgirl65 in reply to BobD

Ha! I get your point!

intheweeds profile image
intheweeds

wow that is so interesting. I am learning a lot about this condition.

you have been really helpful thanks

mhoam profile image
mhoam

You may well be asked to take off a magnetic bracelet during an ECG. Also if you chose to use a KardiaMobile or similar device then such a bracelet could affect the readings.

Good Luck

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intheweeds in reply to mhoam

yes that makes sense. Good advice thanks.

Afib is changing my perceptive about all this technology we use nowadays. I am on a steep learning curve and i appreciate everything you guys are telling me.

GrannyE profile image
GrannyE

I have been wearing a magnetic bracelet on my right wrist for decades. As you said it helps with arthritis.

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intheweeds in reply to GrannyE

i agree and I will start wearing it again myself.

glad to know its helps your arthritis :-)

pd63 profile image
pd63

Ditched my bracelet after it started staining my wrist, didn't do anything for me and no effect on my af.



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GrannyE in reply to pd63

I expect it was made of copper and it was the copper staining your wrist. Some people think that copper can help arthritis but everyone is different and maybe your copper levels are OK.

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Windlepoons in reply to GrannyE

GrannyE. I had problems with the metals too until I bought the one I have now, bioflow, which is stainless steel with two encased magnets on it. I remember I thought it was expensive at the time but I am glad I did as it's stood the test of time. I don't even know if the company is still going.

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intheweeds

that’s interesting. I had the same happen to me with the staining skin until I switched to a rubber encased magnet, seems ok so far. I tried the Fitbit also and my skin had a bad reaction to it. Am still trying to figure out how to wear the Fitbit safely as well. So much to consider!

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GrannyE in reply to intheweeds

I react badly to some metals but I find if I coat them in clear nail varnish then it is OK

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intheweeds in reply to GrannyE

great tip thanks!

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Ducky2003 in reply to GrannyE

Used to do that with belts and rivets on jeans 😁.

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Windlepoons in reply to intheweeds

im a bit clueless scientifically, but do magnetic energies pass through rubber.🤔 Any of you clever people out there know please? ☺️

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intheweeds in reply to Windlepoons

Some of the magnets on the market are sold as sporty so are encased in silicone. Seems to work same as the metal bracelets.

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Mugsy15 in reply to intheweeds

Fitbit: get rid of the awful rubber strap and get the soft, woven sports type that velcro's together. If you wish to view an example of this type, look at Amazon and search for the 'Runostrich' brand. There are plenty of others but this will get you amongst them.

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intheweeds in reply to Mugsy15

i will try that thanks.

jhnm profile image
jhnm

I have a magnetic bracelet on my left arm makes no difrence to my AF

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Windlepoons in reply to jhnm

jhnm. I alternate every night. Left one night and right wrist the next as advised by the people I bought it from. No problems either.

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Windlepoons

I wear mine every night, a bioflow bracelet with the two magnets, and it's not affected my AF episodes. I had been diagnosed with AF for two years before I decided to try it as it was in a drawer for many years before I was prompted by my achey body to remember it. It's not changed the pattern of my episodes at all.

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Jfbould1 in reply to Windlepoons

Do you think it actually helped your arthritis pain?

iohnl profile image
iohnl in reply to Jfbould1

I wonder that as well. Arthritis in hands.

intheweeds profile image
intheweeds in reply to Jfbould1

i find it really helps relieve pain but perhaps its just a placebo foe me!



Windlepoons profile image
Windlepoons in reply to Jfbould1

I think it does help. My hands flare up very occasionally, but don't seem to worsen. I use them a lot too. Knitting and cross stitch. Cheaper magnetic bracelets didn't seem to do much though.

Jetcat profile image
Jetcat

I wear mine with no issues 👍

localad profile image
localad

I wore a strong magnetic bracelet (Bioflow) for many years prior to 2008; it really helped with arthritis in my finger joints. I stopped eating wheat in 2008 and the arthritis went away and I gave up wearing the bracelet.

I tried the bracelet again in 2018 when my AF first kicked off. It didn't help with the AF, that needed a more robust physical intervention ! (3 ablations !)

Still arthritis free I'm pleased to say. No wheat, no bracelet.

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intheweeds in reply to localad

that is remarkable. You have raised such an important point about wheat. Since my own AF kicked in i have been thinking about adjusting my diet to eat less bad bread. Wheat i had not considered but i will now.

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localad in reply to intheweeds

funny little molecules in wheat (and hence bread) that open the intestinal pores quite large, allowing gut content to enter the blood stream. These bits of food gather in the joint areas, cause inflammation and hey presto; arthritis. Wheat grains have a few protective contents to allow safe overwintering in the ground, fending off fungi, bugs etc.

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intheweeds in reply to localad

so interesting to know this. V helpful thanks 👍

LaceyLady profile image
LaceyLady

where did you buy your bracelet? I am a magnetic therapist, trained to use very strong neodymium appliances. Many magnetic bracelets you buy on line or shops are not as powerful as the ones I use. I use a very powerful wand and does no harm to ‘me’. And I am sensible to watch.

Unless you bracelet is 14,000 gauss is

Debatable if it would. Just remove it before bed

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intheweeds in reply to LaceyLady

that is v interesting and i will find out hòw strong my magnet is. Got online from

LaceyLady profile image
LaceyLady in reply to intheweeds

they could well work with the power of suggestion, the mind is a powerful organ. I’ve been a Complementary Therapist for 25 years and encountered scepticism.

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meeko45 in reply to LaceyLady

I wondered if it was placebo until read a scientific paper that said they used magnets on race horses and saw an improvement in movement. That sold me on the idea!

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LaceyLady in reply to meeko45

MRI - magnetic resonance imaging 😉

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localad in reply to LaceyLady

Placebo effect can be very strong ...but we had a magnetic dog collar that rejuvenated a poor arthritic lab many years ago.

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LaceyLady in reply to localad

Animals do not understand. The ‘placebo’ effect, you have to be able to think, so I feel this was the ultimate test.

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Guitar335 in reply to LaceyLady

Hi

I am sceptical of the impact of magnets on arthritic pain other than as a placebo. A quick Google seems to reconfirm that view

However, in the sincere pursuit of being open minded whats the scientific evidence magnets work for arthritic pain please? I would love to see this and benefit from it

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LaceyLady in reply to Guitar335

😜 I gave my severely arthritic mum a mat for her chair that she lived in without say what it was. Week later I got a phone call to say that the mat has ‘helped’ her severe arthritis! She had arthritis in every joint of her body and crippled. She was NOT the sort to appease anyone, called a spade a spade. Part could well be ‘placebo effect’ so what, the persons helped!

I’ve given one to a retired guide dog to have its owner tell me he was SO much better. I gave a mat to a friend for her rescue cat to be told she never gave it to her she found it on top of a cupboard 🤷🏼‍♀️

It is everyone’s right to be sceptical but don’t stop others from experiencing.

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LaceyLady in reply to Guitar335

I have a thick manual that went with my training. I’m already a Complementary Therapist with a level of anatomy & physiology equal or above nurse level

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intheweeds in reply to LaceyLady

lost part of the sentence…was trying to say I bought my magnet from Bioflow.

GardeningMK profile image
GardeningMK

hi there, it is not life threatening condition and especially you only have one or rare episodes I would not even worry and think of giving up your normal healthy fitness regime. You probably experience palpitations more when going to sleep or at rest anyway. Don’t overdo it but keeping healthy and exercising is a must to keep your heart working well. Unless you have a fitted device like a pacemaker which I guess you don’t, the magnetic bracelet should not affect your heart. Keep well, the les you worry about it the better your heart will be, a lot of it is in our heads!! Chin up!

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intheweeds in reply to GardeningMK

great comment thanks so much. I agree totally with you about trying to keep maintaining my fitness lifestyle as it is a big part of my life. When the AF episode occurred and I was put on Bisoprolol I found it impossible to do much at all.

Was taken off it as it pulled my heart rate down too far. And now I am feeling almost like my old self, just more nervous in case I get another AF kicking!

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GardeningMK in reply to intheweeds

by the way - on Bisoprolol, it had exactly the same effect on me. My pulse rate went to 35 an di was feeling dead, or half-dead. I eventually ended up doing ablation, only 6 weeks ago, they totally removed by ectopic beats and I don need beta blockers anymore. I would say worth doing as long as they don't go through the artery. They didn't go through the vein first in my case but then via an artery and it didn't close well and I had phseudoaneurysm and had emergency surgery to repair the artery which now heals fine. . All OK now and overall looking back, I think the ablation was a. good thing to do to get rid of palpitation and ectopics, as long as they can avoid going through the artery! I feel like I am 30 years old again! Talk to your cardiologist and see if they can offer this to you. Ask any questions - I will answer what I know.

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intheweeds in reply to GardeningMK

I meant to ask why I feel the palpitations when I lie down at night?

Is there a reason for this or do I have sleep standing up like a vampire!

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GardeningMK in reply to intheweeds

he-he... It is a strange thing that happens - we all feel palpitations more when it is quiet, we have a lie down trying to get to sleep, and it feels like the heart if the only organ in your body and oh boy, it does beat! Up your throat, in your stomach... I don't think anyone knows, by my cardiologist says - we just notice it more when we lie down quietly. they are just less noticed during the day.

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intheweeds in reply to GardeningMK

wow that's very interesting as well. I had hoped that during the day i must be miraculously cured as i wasnt feeling the heart palps so much!

your previous info about the ablation is really important as well. And about the beta blocker. Thanks so much for your input on this

cindyrella profile image
cindyrella

I have a pacemaker and cannot wear magnetic closures in necklaces or bracelets.

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intheweeds in reply to cindyrella

thanks for that. I will keep that in mind in case I also get a pacemaker.

Timetraveler67 profile image
Timetraveler67

hi just wanted to share that I’m 3 weeks diagnosed I’m wearing a silicone little ener-band that helps to eliminate emf I forgot to put in on yesterday and felt the difference to my heart as it started beating fast without it. I’m sure it helps with my afib but I can only speak for myself and just wanted to share with you. Good luck with your echo I have my cardiac mri Saturday and really not looking forward to being enclosed for an hour in the machine but I’m grateful I’m getting it. Sending good vibes from here in London uk x

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intheweeds in reply to Timetraveler67

what is this ener band? Is it the same as a magnet? Anything that could help ease palpitations would be handy. Which arm do you wear it?

Good luck with your mri

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Timetraveler67 in reply to intheweeds

hi again, no it’s nothing like a magnet it’s a little soft silicone bracelet which has been produced by a small company called Harmony here in the uk ( the lady lives in Bristol) I bought it a year ago before I was diagnosed with afib all I can say is it has really helped me with the heart palpitations. Although not made for pain of arthritis I’ve found it does help with the palpitations of afib. It’s made to help harmonies the effects of emf around your home, like WiFi and smart meters Which can effect a lot of people and effect heart beat with also headaches I paid £19 for my band and if you can afford it maybe well worth a try x

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intheweeds in reply to Timetraveler67

i am so excited by this so i am going to look into it asap. Thanks so much for the info and taking the time to reply. Much appreciated

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Timetraveler67 in reply to intheweeds

just quickly to add that you can find her Webb page on google by putting in harmony emf but make sure you put uk( if your in the uk) as there’s an American site selling similar

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intheweeds in reply to Timetraveler67

found it thank you so much👍

LaceyLady profile image
LaceyLady

we are energetic beings we live on a magnetic planet 🤷🏼‍♀️ we’d float out into space otherwise.

However, for ‘safety’ it may be advised not to use magnets if you have a pacemaker as it is not known if they may affect them.

I use an exceptionally strong wand, but do t have a pacemaker. I’m sensible and if I were to feel any discomfort obviously will stop. I have a huge mat in my bed with many strong magnets inside - I’m still here.

Nigel2000 profile image
Nigel2000 in reply to LaceyLady

Maybe you’re just joking? If not, you are confusing magnetism with gravity. Magnetism has nothing to do with why we don’t “float out into space” AND the earth isn’t flat either.

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LaceyLady in reply to Nigel2000

Thank you for that response, not. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

Book: Heal Your Body Naturally with the power of Magnets, By Roger Coghill

ISBN: 0-684-86967-5

Roger Coghill is a Cambridge trained research biologist specialising in the effects of electromagnetic fields on human, animal and planetary health. The founder of the institute for Magnet Therapy, Coghill teaches seminars and training courses on the use of magnets in healing.

At the back of his book you can find scientific references and resources bibliography

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Buffy-1

i have had afib for 2 years now. Two months ago I bought a magnetic anklet for swelling and blood circulation in my leg. I then bought a bracelet for my right arm for mastectomy to help with swelling. Both have worked to reduce swelling. I bought mine from MagnetRX. They were $59 each. It also seems to have helped palpitations or it could be placebo effect. I wear them 24/7.

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intheweeds in reply to Buffy-1

useful info many thanks. Glad to know magnets help you. I have found my magnet to have a very effect on joint pain in general.

bayonnejoe1 profile image
bayonnejoe1

why the wrist? Wouldn't a magnetic belt or necklace provide more of an impact? I'm asking respectfully.

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intheweeds in reply to bayonnejoe1

to be honest I am not sure why it’s on the wrist. Maybe a pendant or belt would be better..

Palpman profile image
Palpman

When I was an apprentice I had to work in an Oxygen Enrichment Plant for about 2 hours per day.

There were huge electro magnetics the size double decker busses to initially concentrate oxygen. Oxygen is attracted to magnets much like iron.

Working there was a bit difficult as the metal tools would be attracted towards the magnets.

I survived the magnetism and some people worked there full time for all their working lives.

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intheweeds in reply to Palpman

sounds a fascinating place to work. Thanks for sharing

seasicksurf profile image
seasicksurf

Clinical studies show no benefit from magnetic or copper bracelets. Any positive results on arthritis or stiffness for example, are considered placebo effect. If it works for you, put it on

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Nigel2000 in reply to seasicksurf

But don’t waste too much money on 🧲 s.

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intheweeds

i totally agree that placebo works well sometimes. Certainly in my case.

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