Word of caution

[Kennyb1968]

After 9 months of no alcohol I decided that on the last day of our holiday to belatedly celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary that I would have a couple of beers in the sunshine. A couple turned into a few and we had a fantastic evening. 200mg of flecainide before bedtime (all my Afib occurs lying down) and off I went to sleep. Cue waking up at 0400 feeling like absolute death with acid reflux and awful wind. Now in the airport waiting on our flight with the worst hangover ever. Completely not worth it and back on the wagon for me. So, if you feel tempted - don't folks - have a non- alcoholic beer or even better water of fruit juice.

[Jalia]

Hmmmm!🙄

[BobD Volunteer]

Totally agree except the worst hangover I ever had was on Kaliber "non alcholic beer". Its not always the alcohol but some of the enzymes in the stuff.

[Kennyb1968 in reply to BobD]

I would prefer death at this point Bob

[CDreamer in reply to Kennyb1968]

Nothing like the physical after effects to underline the point…….l

We live and learn but hope you feel better soon - hydrate, hydrate, hydrate & electrolytes.

[Trigeminyblue]

Did you have an afibb breakthrough too or were you lucky at least in that respect 😊 hope you're feeling better now.

[Kennyb1968 in reply to Trigeminyblue]

2, one in the middle of the night and one later in the evening. Both very mild and symptomless and rectified in less than 2 hours

[Singwell]

Oops. That's a toughie. Hope all well now.

[Sfhmgusa]

Dear kenny I sooo sympathise drink lots of water and unless you can’t for some reason, take a paracetamol.I used to drink quite a lot pre afib but have moved to moderate or nothing only drinks a hangover is a dreadful memory now for me but “the wagon” is a bit too hard too

Tomorrow you will be much better

Steve

[Morzine]

Yuk, that’s horrid. And traveling too that even double worse…..I imagine u can’t wait to go to bed wake up feeling well again!You’d have probably got away with a beer . Wishing you well,

Sue

[Kennyb1968 in reply to Morzine]

Absolutely - sunshine and sitting putting the world to rights with my beautiful wife of 25 years got me carried away

[Ppiman]

Might it have been reflux or hiatus hernia rather than the alcohol? A gassy stomach or intestines can also irritate the base of the heart via the diaphragm and cause ectopics, and those AF.

Bad luck.

Steve

[Kennyb1968 in reply to Ppiman]

I think the middle of the night Afib one was definately reflux - the later evening was a combination of hangover and fatigue - all short lived and sorted now

[Ppiman in reply to Kennyb1968]

Maybe risk a glass or three of wine for your next celebration?! I have insomnia and feel sure that fatigue is my "trigger", sadly, there's no way out for me on that one. Tiredness added to lack of food is a double trigger.

Happy anniversary, by the way!

Steve

[Kennyb1968 in reply to Ppiman]

Thanks Steve - even the thought of alcohol at the moment is horrific but I'm sure that will pass😂

[Ppiman in reply to Kennyb1968]

Oh yes - as sure as day follows (hic!) night. 😉

Steve

[JOY2THEWORLD49]

Hey Kenny

I thought it was "off the wagon when you stop drinking!'

"On the wagon when you are drinking alcohol'.

cheers JOY 73. NZ

[Kennyb1968 in reply to JOY2THEWORLD49]

No, I'm pretty sure it's the other way around but I maybe wrong

[Eliktrick in reply to JOY2THEWORLD49]

On the r wagon means your not drinking.. when you fall off of it you have given in to the drink😊

[bassets]

Oh dear! Hope you are feeling better now.

[Montsauton]

Well said Kenny. I've been off the booze for a year, after having been a heavy drinker. Don't miss it at all and feel loads better. Don't get acid refulx anymore either.

[javo123j]

Personally alcohol has no effect on my afib. Came off it for about 18 months and it made no difference to me. I would say I was lucky but I have no idea what causes my attacks.

[dunestar]

Maybe as you hadn't been drinking for a while the effect of the alcohol was more severe.

[Ducky2003]

Or maybe just stick to a glass or two? 😁.

[irene75359]

What a shame after your celebrations! If I have a drink, I always have at least two large glasses of water before I go to bed. Years ago I had the most horrendous hangover after drinking only two small glasses of wine and falling asleep shortly afterwards, not having had any more fluids.

[mjames1]

Sorry. Hope you're feeling better. Hopefully that night dose of Flec kept afib out of the misery. Reflux/heartburn can be debilitating. I think the Flec sometimes triggers mine. Currently on PPI's and sometimes an Alginate. You might want to have one or both as a reflux PIP. H2 pumps and/or antacids can also be effective.

Jim

[Kennyb1968 in reply to mjames1]

I'm good Jim - as you predicted the Flec is taking a while to give that protection against AFib so although incidents are every couple of days at the moment, already the intensity of attacks are hugely reduced in terms of rate, rhythm and duration (sometimes I have to use my app to confirm it) . I think I need to settle into a pattern of when I take the Flec and then be patient.

[Suny1]

Hope you had a wonderful holiday and are feeling much better.

[secondtry]

Thanks for posting. It is soooo tempting when having a good time to be complacent, so appreciate you providing us all with a reminder!

[kkatz]

Hi Kenny,I very rarely have a drink these days.Up to last Friday I had had 1 glass of wine and 1 double brandy in 6 weeks .Got a bit stressed out about making a last minute decision and had 4 unmeasured double brandy & cokes.I am in Persistent AF at the moment so maybe that is why I had no Ill effects.Glad I didn't book anything as I would have regretted it.But definitely returning to virtually no alcohol.

[riffjack846]

I used to self medicate my afib by drinking a lot prior to being put on medication. I wasn't curing the afib but getting buzzed enough to not notice the ectopics. I really-really don't miss those hangovers thank God for Sotalol.

[Kennyb1968 in reply to riffjack846]

I was the same - I didn't feel the ectopics if I drank but they would be really bad the next day.

[Camelia23]

I suppose you did have a fantastic evening 😀I found after being diagnosed with afib September 2019 that my triggers were alcohol, excess coffee and stress. Gradually I went off the wine. I used to have the odd glass of red wine which sometimes I seemed to cope with and others I discovered set off afib at the magic hour of 4am or around then. My last glass was at Christmas and I don't miss it. I do enjoy coffee so I have one and occasionally two in the morning. My husband is diabetic type 1 and I annoy him by saying he should have two evenings without alcohol but he ignores me and has 3 glasses of white every evening so I've stopped the lectures 😂😂

[Thecyclist]

Deepest sympathies and wise words Kenny, happy silver wedding anniversary as well. I had a similar experience over the weekend, friends took me to lunch last Friday for my birthday (wife stayed home), although I do have the odd glass of wine or a beer, I tend to know my limit and just have a couple and haven't had a hangover for years.

For some reason I got carried away and thought I could drink like the "old days". Big mistake. I ended up walking the three miles home from the lunch which "ended" at 8ish, in order to sober up and walk off the wine, felt ok when I got to bed and thought I'd got away with it, but oh boy I suffered for the next few days. Only felt normal today. Alcohol, heart meds and heart conditions are not meant for one another.

🙄

[Kennyb1968 in reply to Thecyclist]

We live and learn my friend - I'm feeling much better - had a minor AFib break through on going to bed (95% of mine occur at night), but it passed in half an hour and I slept through it.

[Eliktrick]

2yrs for me .. since my diagnosis ..I have not attempted it and from what I’m reading I won’t be..

[Kennyb1968 in reply to Eliktrick]

Good plan!