Takeaway 🥡 🍛 🍺 should come with a health warning ⚠️ ☠️

[Pigleywigley]

I’ve been tracking my sleep for about 5 years. This is my worse recorded sleep session yet! Why? This was as a result of Indian takeaway last night.

For those of you that know, since my health’ier’ journey started last year I have tried quite hard with nutrition. I love that food is medicine. Food is also poison. This was my first takeaway in a long time & will be my last for a very long time. Today I have had a faster heart rate, higher blood pressure, fatigue, exhaustion and low mood.

For those that don’t think about their diet or track their lifestyle take heed. This 💩 will affect your health!

Happy Sunday peeps 🥰

[Desanthony]

For me that’s a good night’s 💤 sleep

[Pigleywigley in reply to Desanthony]

🙈 oh no 😤 do you take magnesium?

[Desanthony in reply to Pigleywigley]

Yes.

[Megams]

~So sorry to read this Pigleywigley - have learnt that those types of takeaways invariably contain hidden ingredients that we "innocent public" don't see

MSG especially + colourings & possibly other additives just send my heart into etopic's (in past) but probably would send into a/fib now.

A hard lesson to learn but this is how we know what to leave alone. Home cooking always safer for me

Try light meals today to give liver chance to detox with plenty of fluid + trusty vitamin C .

That would be my more natural suggestion to get you on track again.

Good luck ~

[Pigleywigley in reply to Megams]

Thanks Megams I’m good & cook normally. Just wanted to show the AFibbers who might not realise what takeaways can do!

[BobD Volunteer]

Indian ( Punjabi railway curry or Chinese) are once a month meals here with zero issues other than the somewhat poisonous odours that follow. If anything is going to upset me it is too much meat in a week so we eat veggie four nights at least. Life style is everything.

[Pigleywigley in reply to BobD]

Me too Bob. Didn’t get AF but lots of other side effects!

[Rubymurray25]

I risked a Thai takeaway for my daughters birthday about 3 years ago and bang straight in to an AF episode , so haven't had a takeaway since. The sleep app looks interesting, what is it called if you don't mind me asking?

[Pigleywigley in reply to Rubymurray25]

It’s pillow used with my Apple Watch 👍

[Rubymurray25 in reply to Pigleywigley]

Many thanks for the info.

[CDreamer]

And not cooking it yourself means you don’t know what’s in it and so cannot track. Apart from poor sleep, any other symptoms?

My nemesis this season was a very pretty Christmas cake mydaughter-in-law gave me which she said was bought ‘home made’ and highly recommended. Still feeling the affects after having one slice last Wednesday.

I found that having eaten completely ‘clean’ for 18 months I was even more sensitive.

[Auriculaire in reply to CDreamer]

We have no Indian restaurants in our area . The last Indian meal I ate in a restaurant was the last time I went to Paris nearly 10 years ago. I make Indian food myself the lazy way using Patak's pastes which I discovered when we lived in Handsworth. All the shops on Soho Road (the main shopping street) were full of them and they were obviously used by the Indians living there. But I only use a small amount. I suspect the same pastes are used in many takeaway places but in far larger quantities. I have never had afib after an Indian meal but I have stopped going to Chinese restaurants "just in case". It's homecooking all the time from today as we are no longer allowed in restaurants.

[Pigleywigley in reply to Auriculaire]

Me too I enjoy cooking at home. Less treats for me now!

[Pigleywigley in reply to CDreamer]

I need to get ‘clean’ again CD 🤣 (we’re like junkies 😤)Starting a cleanse next week after Christmas had a bit too much old cake & choc & feeling the effects.

I had HBP & high HR Sunday. But no AFIb. Felt fatigued & moody (well mood could be put down as normal according to my husband!)

[Singwell]

Useful share. I guess you need WiFi on for your sleep tracker? I always have our off overnight. But the takeout was the culprit clearly. Additives?

[Pigleywigley in reply to Singwell]

Hey singwell I have wifi. I just wanted to show AFIb punters what spicy & oily can do! My sleep usually up 80-90%.

[Singwell in reply to Pigleywigley]

Oily additives would do it for me too - acid reflux. I was eyeing up your sleep tracker enviously but wouldn't want anything connecting me and WiFi all night. That's why I asked

[Threecats in reply to Singwell]

Hi Singwell the Pillow app uses Bluetooth to connect from Apple Watch to phone, not Wi-Fi. I turn my Wi-Fi off at night, too and Bluetooth on my phone for that matter. I just turn Bluetooth back on in the morning and the app downloads the stored overnight data from the watch.

[Singwell in reply to Threecats]

Thank you. I might look into this.husband has an iPhone

[MoyB]

I have had no problem with Indian or Chinese food, but our son and his wife treated us to a night at an expensive hotel for our anniversary and while there we had a beautiful lamb dinner.

It was local lamb, straight off the downs, and local veg, cooked to perfection. Everything was gorgeous and, as far as I could tell, there was nothing in the food to cause a problem.

However, it set off my AF and I spent the night in A&E as I felt quite unwell and my husband was panicking! We didn't get to stay the night and missed out on our breakfast.

This has since happened a number of times at home and so sometimes, I think quantity of food may be the issue rather than the quality of it.

Xx Moy

[Pigleywigley in reply to MoyB]

Moy sorry to hear your story & missing your treat 😰

[MoyB in reply to Pigleywigley]

We felt bad that our son had paid so much for the room and we didn't use it. It's not the first time we've had to abort a night in a hotel and probably won't be the last, but it was a first for AF!

Still, it was a blooming good dinner! Lol! Xx Moy

[CDreamer in reply to MoyB]

I think the quantity and also when you eat. I can’t eat a large meal now within 3-4 hours of going to bed. Sorry your treat was messed up.

[dinamariea]

Most restaurant foods besides the additives cook with a lot of oil and salt as well. I highly recommend only going to restaurants you know that do not cook this way. I have only two in my area and only go to them on Mother’s Day and on my birthday. I highly recommend reading Dr. Furhmans “The End of Heart Disease” and Dr. Esselstyn’s “Prevent and Reverse Heart disease” All say if you have heart disease to avoid salt, sugar and oil and animal products. Dr. Esselstyn does allow for a small amount of condiments like low salt soy sauce or tamari that has salt in it, but it usually represents a small amount in the recipe. I have other books I can recommend but these two are on the top of the list. Dr. Esselstyn is more strict as he does not allow overt fatty plant foods like nuts, seeds and avocado. Dr. Furhman is okay with these foods in small amounts. Also Dr. McDougall’s book the starch solution will also be a book I highly recommend. These books can help people with heart disease and people wanting to avoid it but it helps address other chronic diseases as well.

[Pigleywigley in reply to dinamariea]

Thank you I am very healthy food aware. Hence rare to go. I just wanted to share what happens especially for those who don’t always make the food & health connection! Will look at your books. You read John Day?

[CDreamer in reply to dinamariea]

And I have moved in quite the opposite direction. I avoid all Ultra Processed foods whenever possible and starches - especially wheat cereals which was shown to be the biggest money making con based on faulty research on Cholesterol.

Diet should be high in veggies certainly - 70-80%. I moved to high salt - I have very low BP so was recommended to by doctor and nutritionist as most of us these days don’t take enough after all of the scare mongering but if you have high BP you need to limit to 6g/daily - I now take much more fat than I ever used to - oil, butter, cheese, eggs, seeds, avacados especially - I lost, not gained weight - increased foods such as seeds/avocado and absolutely ditched as much starch as possible. That is what most of our doctors will recommend. Certainly what my Nutritionist recommended and worked for me.

Starches are sugars and just about the worst thing for chronic conditions, especially diabetes so important to limit their intake.

Cure AFib by Dr Day is an excellent book for AF.

[Pigleywigley]

Amazing isn’t it how sensitive the system is!

[dinamariea]

No I haven’t but I will look him up. Thank you.