Exercise 'paradoxically' increases levels of plaque in the arteries linked to heart disease, study finds

[Physalis]

heart.bmj.com/content/early...

Or in an easier to understand version

dailymail.co.uk/health/arti...

[Jalia]

That's interesting !

[Ppiman]

That was interesting, thank you for finding it. I thought that the Daily Mail article was rather excellent and the journalist seemed to have access to more information than was in the original. I imagine more research now needs doing to determine what these conflicting results mean.

Steve

[LaceyLady]

Advert for statins? When I had a bone density test about 20 years ago, I was told I’d never get osteoporosis. By this I assumed I had very high density. I assume I have a high calcium level. No I will not take statins.

[Physalis in reply to LaceyLady]

I didn't see it as an advert for statins. It seems to be a puzzle which other researchers will have to try to find out the answer to.

However, I do think that extreme exercising, pushing the body to its limits, is potentially harmful. Maybe it is what this research shows.

[MarkS]

That's interesting, but I would add a couple of qualifiers. The first is that people need to have had a CAC score test before qualifying for entry to the study. I would have thought that only those with a concern about their heart health would have qualified. Secondly, the study population was entirely Korean and east Asians do respond differently in a number of areas to your average European. What it may also mean is that the CAC score is an irrelevance!

[beach_bum]

Well, interesting, but needs clarification.

health.harvard.edu/heart-he...

If you want to read this entire report from the American Heart Association,

Be my guest, but I can save you the agony, and the 2 hours of your life you will regret wasting on trying to decipher techno-medical terminology...

If you are are not an over 50 ultramarathon runner, don't lose sleep, and reading between the lines, even if you are, don't sweat it, odds are you will be fine.

For the rest of us walking, cycling, hiking geezers? we will be fine.. really 🙂

ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161...

[Auriculaire]

I think "exercise " as such is over rated. My paternal gran lived to be 98 and never "exercised" in her life. But she walked to the shops , never had a washing machine (used an old fashioned mangle) and did all her own housework till she was about 75. Her son smoked , was overweight ,never lifted a finger in the house, had a company car and dropped dead of a heart attack aged 40. Activity is what our ancestors had not gyms or running shoes.

[Tomred in reply to Auriculaire]

I also think activity would be better than all out exercise think of all the twists and turns the body makes but not under set or repetitive motions

[Physalis]

I've never exercised as such since I was at school. Now I do between 2-3000 steps a day which isn't much. Just occasionally it's 5000. I'm not really counting though. I mean I'm not trying to do more steps. I have a friend who is too thin, even the doctor tells her she needs to put on weight, but she persists in her 12,000 steps a day. I think she's potty!

I wonder how many steps I did when my children were young.

[LaceyLady in reply to Physalis]

I knew a woman some years ago who went to the gym every day and did at least 2 hours on various equipment. She complained of a rash all over her. I’d asked about the quantity of exercise she did , told her her body was reacting to the quantity adrenaline. I suggested she lessen her days, ‘oh no, I can’t do that’! 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Auriculaire in reply to LaceyLady]

Endorphine addict? I used to get these highs when performing and sometimes when rehearsing . They are amazing but I was never tempted to chase them on a regular basis.

[RoyMacDonald]

What a load of rubbish.

All about the mechanics of exercise and nothing about calcium intake! Most of the developed world has too high an intake of calcium. Eat nothing that comes from a cow. Human beings have not evolved to eat cheese or drink cows milk, or products that are made from milk. Also there is a deficiency of K2 in most people which is the vitamin that protects the heart and arteries from calcium.

I exercise every day, am 77 and still cycle racing even though I have SVT I have halved the episodes of SVT following the above advice.

All the best.

Roy

[belindalore]

Gee. It's kind of a "darned if you do, darned if you don't" thing as far as exercise. But does this calcium build-up also boil down to genetics like so many other problems we humans may have?.🙁Reminds me of Bob Harper, one of the exercise "gurus" here in the USA. He co-hosted the TV show "The Biggest Losers". The no pain, no gain mentality. He had a major heart attack 3 or 4 years ago. As fit as he was, it took him awhile to recover. And he even changed his diet to less fat and carbs. Could it have been genetic? Possibly. I do wish Drs (and the dang insurance companies here would allow it) would test people more diligently for levels of all the nutrients in the body. I believe that just doing that would allow Drs and the patients better understanding in treating all illness. I think most people on this forum would agree with that. Sigh..............

Take care and be safe.