It appears as though moderate red wine drinking actually protects against AF:
medscape.com/viewarticle/95...
In this UK study of 400,000 adults, consumption of 1 to 7 glasses of red wine a week reduced the incidence of AF by 6%. White wine also had a similar though lower effect and beer and cider increased risk at any level. Interestingly, the risk of AF never increased at any level of red wine drinking compared with non-drinkers.
G'day Mark
That's what I ( and the wine industry) like to see ..... nice positive news .... in moderation. Always brings back memories of 'Lil 'ole wine drinker me ... Dean Martin. Although I believe he did give the booze quite a caning along with other members of the 'Rat Pack'.
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I always knew I was doing something right with my diet.
John
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I knew there was a reason I favoured red wine. Though I do know someone whose AF is triggered by wine but not beer - maybe it's to do with something else in the wine. Thankfully I know my AF isn't triggered by wine and I barely drink a full glass a day and it is usually red wine. Good to hear I must be doing something right.
Hmm. After my near miss with Pimm's yesterday I won't be trying this out just yet! 😉. But I shall read it as I'd been thinking IF I drink again it would be local artisan cider...
Really good article. Thank you for bringing to our attention. A good start to Monday morning!
OK I'm going to be the party pooper here. Admittedly the link is only a summary, not the paper itself. But the conclusion isn't quite as you implied:". A large cohort study saw a familiar J-shaped curve detailing risk for new atrial fibrillation (AF) in which the risk rose steadily with greater number of drinks per week, except at the lowest levels of alcohol intake.
There, the curve turned the other way. Light drinkers overall showed no higher AF risk than nondrinkers, and the risk was lowest at any degree of alcohol intake up to 56 g per week." I really don't think we can conclude from this that if you already have AF it's safe to drink red wine. Obviously I'd need to read the full study to say more - in particular how they assessed 'risk of AF' and how that was compared in those with AF - if it all. And I accept my that it's a very individual thing: some can drink, some cannot. Far be it from me to kill a simple pleasure. But the paper isn't a green light for all of us to our red bottles...😔. Only you lucky few. Have one for me please - a well aged rioja!
Guess it is a mixed bag of views though with this as clearly some folk are badly affected by any alcohol. I can have two reds if I am out but I’m wary of full bodied high percent ones. I drink a lot of water too..... God I’d love a full bodied Rjoja!.....those days are gone......
I have found that more and more French wines have higher alcohol content than they used to. It is rare to look at the label and find less than 12.5 % these days and often they are 13.5%. Maybe this is to do with hotter summers. Except this one! 😭
Yes you’re dead right, 13, 13.5 and 14......it’s hard to find a twelve or twelve point five.....we must look funny in our Carrefour turning the bottles around looking at labels, think yes it’s the hot summers.......this summer aaaargh......
I'm blaming next door. They come down from Paris in summer and this year they bought a swimming pool. I was chatting to Helena this morning and she said she was so fed up with the heat the last two years she had to have water - she is Brazilian and is out in her tiny bikini most of the day when it's sunny. The kids have ventured in so far a couple of times . It is gradually coming hotter but quite humid cos of all the rain we have had.
Sorry but this is misleading at best - the risk of 'new' AF may not be affected by drinking red wine, but this forum is populated largely by those who already have the condition, and for them the risk of triggering AF by drinking red wine is very real. Many suspect that the presence of sulphates is the culprit, but in the book 'How I Cured My Afib', one of the listed triggers is Tyramine - which is present in red wine.
Personally I can say red wine very definitely IS a trigger, and it is not the alcohol content as beer is not a trigger in my case - so for me and many others this article is potentially dangerous.
Right, so that gives that article a real caning and pounding to bits, objective and subjective comments et al ..... so now who is gonna do one on tea, coffee, decaffeinated tea, decaffeinated coffee, soft drinks .... and don't forget to be subjective 😂😂😂 ..... it is what it is for all of us .....horses for courses ... we are all affected by different things, food, drinks, fruit, sugar, salt - even medications.Why not just accept the article as a general interest item. On a world wide basis it will have relevance to many people.
Because it is posted on a forum for sufferers of Atrial Fibrillation, many of whom would suffer an attack as a result of drinking red wine in the belief that this article gives them a green light to do so. That's why.
And yet:-
medscape.org/viewarticle/95...
How selective we can be when it suits our tastes and opinion. Just saying.
Champagne or a really good Sparkling white wine is the only wine I can tolerate these days - better get your wallets out if you are having me around! It’s the tannin in red wine which upsets me, black tea is the same. But I’m all for having a bit of what you fancy and makes you feel good.
I really wonder sometimes....there must be SO much grant money out there these days. Just who conjures up these studies? Cash strapped biomed PhD candidates is my guess. Next up? "The effects of cranberries on teens with Epstein Barr" 😋
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