STAY THE HECK HOME OVER CHRISTMAS !!!!!!

[goldey]

Don't be a fool. CORONA is REAL, people are dying every day because they couldn't just stay safe at home for a couple months. You can celebrate with your family next year -- don't risk it right now when numbers are rising every day! WE HAVE HEART DISEASE. If we catch CORONA we could easily die! Don't doubt that for a second. Do you want to put your family through that just because you want to go out with them at Christmas? THINK! We are so vulnerable because of our heart disease, a mask is not enough,. STAY HOME !!!!

[bantam12]

I am staying home but my daughters are coming to stay, my husband died this year and it's the first Christmas for us without him so no way am I going to tell them to stay away, they want/need to be at home ! It's a case of weighing up the risks and benefits and making an informed choice.

[Globe-J in reply to bantam12]

Hi Bantam,

Right you are, making an informed choice, without telling someone how they should behave.

Best wishes

J (-:

[meadfoot in reply to bantam12]

Sorry to hear you have lost your dear husband, Bantam. Of course you should do whatever is right for you and your family. I dont doubt for a minute that you have made this decision to be together for all the right reasons and will ensure you all keep yourself covid safe. I hope this tough time for you can be offset somewhat by being together.

[bantam12 in reply to meadfoot]

Thanks, we will do our best to stay safe, we haven't all been together since last Christmas so it's been a long time. I hope you have as good a Christmas as you can, stay safe x

[Mrsvemb in reply to bantam12]

So sorry for the loss of your husband bantam. This will be my third Christmas since losing mine and I still can’t face waking up on Christmas morning at home alone. I too will be with my daughter and son in law. They are my support bubble.I hope the you and your daughters can find some peace at Christmas.

[bantam12 in reply to Mrsvemb]

Thank you, I hope you also have as good a Christmas as possible 🙂

[Hidden]

In principle goldey, I agree with everything you say but there is an element of alarmism which medics here in the UK would say is inaccurate. First, AF is not a disease, it’s a heart condition and unless someone has AF in conjunction with something else, such as heart failure, they are no more at risk with Covid than anyone else within their age range. My wife and I will be spending Christmas on our own, but it is easier for us because we have no children or grandkids but we are mindful of those who have. The vast majority probably can do what you suggest, but there will be some who may, for a variety of different reasons be fearful that this could be their last Christmas and they deserve some consideration.

Obviously I have no idea what AF patients are being told in Canada, but as I said, here, we are being told that folk with lone AF are no worse off than anyone else.

However you spend your Christmas, enjoy...........ps. I want your kitten!

[goldey in reply to Hidden]

My kittens are Scottish Folds, the cutest little things God ever made. They should be easier to find in the UK than they are here in Canada, they go for about $1,000 here.

[Hidden]

You are right. Dr Zubaida Haque of Independent Sage explains why mixing at Christmas is so ill advised:

news.sky.com/video/independ...

[Mrsvemb]

AF is not a disease, it is a condition so unless you have other heart conditions, you are no more at risk if you catch covid than anyone else of your age.I do agree that everyone should keep mixing over Christmas to a minimum, and 5 days is far too long to be relaxing the rules when the virus is spreading fast.

I don’t go to any shops at all, nor does my daughter and son in law. We have grocery deliveries. All of our Christmas shopping has been done online. My daughter and son in law both work 100% at home.

They are my support bubble so I will be staying with them for three nights over Christmas. Even though we don’t go anywhere, we still don’t have hugs.

If my husband was still alive then I would be happy to stay home just the two of us.

[Johnbobby]

Take a breath and relax. Do what you feel is right by you but nobody is a fool for having a different opinion than the one you hold regarding staying at home etc. I’ll be seeing my mum and dad. Its a choice we have both made and its a choice we are both comfortable with. It certainly doesn’t make us fools. For how much longer are we willing to live in fear?

[Barb1]

i have AF, I don't have heart disease. I am no more at risk than anyone else of my age. If I was, I would be on the vulnerable list. You have a right to your opinion but please don't be alarmist, especially with capital letters.

[dolly26]

I have AF plus congenital heart disease and a lung condition so I am classed as extremely vulnerable and shielded through the first wave (northern Ireland never restarted shielding from the end of July) so I have been back to work since august. And I also have a child in school and childcare. So in regards to xmas I will be spending 1 afternoon with my family because if I can do all of the above I can certainly spend an afternoon with my loved ones who are doing everything they can to protect me.

[belindalore]

Some people just aren't going to listen. Look at the USA where I live. Full of idiots. There will be major travel over Xmas just like Thanksgiving. All we can do is take care of ourselves. 😟 So you take care of yourself and be safe. 😔

[jondeanp]

That’s ONLY YOUR OPINION Goldey. I have had a successful ablation for a heart condition, not heart disease. I am willing to take the risk to invite my 85 year old mum around for Christmas. She is also comfortable with this after being on deaths door earlier this year and recently starting dialysis. People have been dying every day for ever. Winter Flu kills thousands each year, but we have never been given daily numbers like we are getting for Covid.

For many this may be their last Christmas. Who knows?

If people want to visit relatives, then THEY SHOULD.

[Desanthony]

We are generally at home on our own at Christmas anyway though every other year visit our grandsons in the States but we do miss having neighbours in for a drink (all our neighbours are in general over 70 and/or have some form of disease - worse than AF - infact of those of us over 70 - only two young families on our little estate, I am probably the fittest - Gawd help everyone else lol - as some days I feel 102 with my arthritis) Miss having visits to/from family before Christmas and being able to contemplate a holiday to the States to see my grandsons but safer here in my own little place for both myself, my wife - who though only 60 is classed as extremely vulnerable due to lung conditions and all my family. We have posted all the presents we can and are in touch with everyone through various social media platforms - not the same I know and I would dearly love to see my sister as this is her first Christmas without her husband of 51 years but it is not worth the risk for either of us or for any of our other family and friends. As Wales went into lockdown at mid night we have to go shopping just once before Christmas and not likely to go shopping again for a few weeks. If this is behind us this time next year then next Christmas is going to be FANTASTIC! We have started planning already.