Here in the USA the covid virus keeps surging. So many people just had to fly all over the country for Thanksgiving. I know people long to see their loved ones but they are not considering the consequences. Or maybe they don't care anymore because this has gone on for so long. I don't know what to think. Hospitals here are setting up tents to treat so many cases. Medical personnel is wore out. Some are quitting and looking for other jobs. The professional sports players get tested and tested and tested but no regards as to whether our medical people get tested. So much selfishness. I had my 3rd covid test yesterday. All were Negative. One gal in my neighborhood has had the virus twice. Not bad. She recovered at home both times. I was talking to a young man in the parking lot where we were getting the test and he said the nasal swab comes up negative most of the time but one could still have it in the lungs and be positive. I don't know. Seems very possible.
I wonder from time to time if it really is the end of times. Even with the vaccines there will still be cases. Vaccines are not cures nor do they stop transmission. Yes they will help. One Dr talked about how "brilliant" this virus is because of how it can mutate and not be as strong but still wreak havoc. So how long will the vaccines work. It's like some episode of the old "Twilight Zone" TV show. I expect Rod Serling to appear. Maybe God is just tired of people on this earth and their fighting. The continuous wars. I don't know. Just wanted to say how I feel right now. 😔Thanks.
Hello Belinda, thank you for sharing your sobering thoughts. From what we hear in the UK, we understand that things are particularly difficult in parts of the USA and no doubt there are a wide variety of different reasons for this, but perhaps now is not the time to speculate on what could have, should have been done differently and why. Like most other European countries, we here in the UK we have experienced many lows but a few highs too. One things for sure, if you had 4 people in a room, the chances are none of them would agree on what could have been done better and how and that’s because we all have different circumstances and probably would find it difficult to see things through the eyes of others. Whilst there are no magic wands, but there has to be hope that the situation will begin to improve as we progress into 2021. It may be hype, but the scientists and medical advisers here are not known for their unwarranted optimism but even they are now beginning to convey an air of hope. However, the future is largely up to us as individuals and families. We don’t need politicians to tell us what to do to avoid the virus and many here know that it’s largely the reckless behaviour of the few that has caused spikes in cases in urban areas. However, the World has been subjected to many plagues and pandemics for centuries and the fact that we are still here suggests that they can and will be overcome.
Whilst most will share your concerns, the fear that I have based on recent experience, some of the responses are likely to generate a variety of views which will be disputed by other responders with different views. Therefore the chances are you are in for an entertaining couple of days which will be a useful diversion but will not do much to help AF patients with their problems.
One part you are right on is "there will be a variety of views" - and why not?
Then we have........
"but will not do much to help AF patients with their problems"!
Reading many of the questions and responses from those who are concerned as to how sufferers from Afib might be affected imo shoots that down - we are here to help/give support and that will come in many different ways.
Unfortunately you get people (in general) on a "Health forum" of all places, saying this is [not] the place, on that I have to ask; why should members of an Afib forum have to go elsewhere and discuss with total strangers, their concerns as to how it might affect their Afib?
And what’s your message to Belindalore whose feeling a bit down and would probably benefit from some words of encouragement.......
Quite simply it is a learning curve for all of us and to ask her if she has the same misinformation of stats that we have? People need to understand that whilst there is undoubtedly a problem - we in the UK are not being told the [whole] truth, does she feel similar in the States.
Once you/we can get our head around certain things, you might look at it in a different light - I certainly do as an awful lot does not make any sense.
Yes. There is so much we don't understand about this pandemic. Here in the USA we are told one thing and then the next day something else. Hard to figure out what to believe. Same thing in the UK? I find lately that I worry more about contracting covid than I think about Afib. Maybe because it's becoming more of a problem here in the USA. I have to go out to the grocery store once in awhile and I see too many people disregard the store signs that say you must wear a mask. And they are still allowed in so a fight doesn't happen. No one knows if they could be asymptomatic. I believe masks help some. I try to think of others and not just myself. I'm just dumbfounded by it all. I would love nothing more than to be able to just go somewhere on a whim without making sure if I grabbed a mask. I guess it causes more stress and no one who has Afib or any other illness for that matter needs more stress. These last few days watching all the people crowding the airports, and now they are all flying back home, just kind of got to me. Yes I saw the majority with masks but not much distancing. Will it happen again at Xmas. Maybe I'm being too much of a Scrooge. 😔
We seem to have pretty much the same here.
I feel that it would show a different picture if the stats were broken down ie out of [say] 500 infections in a given area; how many are Asymptomatic? how many are Mild? how many are recuperating at home? how many are there in hospital? last but not least- how many are there in IC? That would narrow the seriousness of it down.
In our area they might give a figure of [say] 500 infections; you then have to ask - how many were contracted in Hospital? how many came from our local schools & universities? how many came from a food factory? Once those are taken out of the [say] 500, it might only be [say] 50 from the local community, who are doing their best to suppress this problem - then the figures do not look as bad as portrayed.
Unfortunately, they lump all the figures together, which makes it look like a City/Town are not taking care.
I guess the thing is we don't get the whole picture.
John, I feel that your comments have a veiled political slant, and I don't think that is appropriate on this site. The exercise of breaking down statistics would indeed be useful, but collecting the data scientifically is hugely challenging and not actually viable because of the significant range of variables involved. Please take that from a retired researcher who knows a little about statistics. I am totally with Flapjack in his responses. I would also add that as far as I am concerned, the risk of blood clots in the very ill is one reason I am self isolating as much as possible and making sure to take my anticoagulants meticulously.
Lol whatever are you reading/seeing? Please point out where my comments have a "political slant"? The Wales Health Board have no political leanings - my stats and knowledge have come from that source!
1st things 1st. A member came and posted their worries/concerns, we are a health forum so help comes in many different forms. With that whether it is talking about it or giving personal knowledge/help I do not have a problem. You can if you wish take no part, with that I have no problem, however, I do have a problem when a member just like you and I, starts telling me what I can or cannot do/say, censorship does not belong on here.
I get even more annoyed when they ask me what I would do to help that person, to then say after giving a very innocuous answer "I'm going to report you - I'm not communicating with you". That person has no right whatsoever to say what can, or cannot be discussed - health involving Afib was involved that is legit in my book.
The stats breakdown in this computerised age, would be easy enough for an 11 yr old to compile without any additional work involved. It is all written down in the first instance in longhand at a GPs/Hospital, as such I see no problem whatsoever and certainly not challenging, as the information is already there.
Skuze me......I’m a bloke.....😉😂😉
Sorry Flapjack! 😆
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My husband (81) and myself (74) keep thinking the same about the figures here in Italy, and wishing they would stop putting that a woman of 100 has died of Covid (recent news here in Veneto) for goodness sake after a certain age don't we all die of old age. Also that old people are dying on their own in Care Homes, most are being looked after really well by Carers who know them better than their relatives who visit them a few times a year. It would be better if we knew why the young people are dying.
Well said Flapjack
Sometimes I think some people on here seem to forget what this forum is all about????
Sometimes people just need some kind words. Everything affects us who have Afib. I meant no harm or for anyone to fight. People on this forum have been nothing more than kind and supporting of what anyone is feeling. I so appreciate the kind words. It's easy to get down during this time. I'm only human.