Sudafed

[sotolol]

Morning to you all.

I use a salt nasal spray for sinus problems.

Has anyone used Sudafed that has PAF. ?

Thank you.

[Jalia]

I think i am correct in saying that as Sudafed contains pseudo ephedrine it is not advised for those prone to arrhythmias

[jedimasterlincoln]

Yes I did and I should not have. It made my AF come on.

[Finvola]

Both sudafed and salbutamol made my heart race even before I was diagnosed with AF. I use salt spray too and a neti pot. The old remedy of Friar's Balsam helped a lot when I had a bad bout last year.

[secondtry in reply to Finvola]

Hi Finvola, salt spray/neti pot is new ground for me. My issue is upper respiratory stuffiness which prevents clear inhalation particularly through the left nostril for some reason. Can I ask for a bit more detail of your experience e.g. what were your symptoms that got you to try it and how effective is it and any side effects?

[CDreamer in reply to secondtry]

The nasal rinses have helped me a lot. I use a bottle rather than the netti-pot for ease of use and had no unpleasant affects. You need to use sterilised water - you can buy it but it’s expensive or boil water in a pot for at least 5 mins and leave to cool. The salts come in little sachets which you simply add to the bottle before adding the cooled water. I use Neil-Med.

My GP also suggested I use a steroid nasal spray (steroids are not absorbed but help reduce inflammation and swelling). The combination help enormously.

I’ve been struggling with this for a year now and the problem clears, I stop using the nasal rinse and nasal drip and upper respiratory difficulties and mucous return. It’s got worse again since the cold and rain returned.

[Barb1 in reply to CDreamer]

Is a steroid nasal spray only available on prescription?

[CDreamer in reply to Barb1]

No - you can buy OTC. I use Beconase but there are others.

[CDreamer in reply to secondtry]

PS - my left nostril is more affected and if you listen to Patrick McKewon video I posted a week or so ago - he explains why. I also use his breathing techniques and they have also helped.

[secondtry in reply to CDreamer]

That's great info thanks CDreamer on the techniques and PM's video, I have listened to some of his vids but missed that one. Have a great day.

[Barb1 in reply to CDreamer]

I have put Patrick McKewon video into search but nothing has come up.

I then put your name in and nothing recent. Any ideas?

[CDreamer in reply to Barb1]

youtu.be/wl4J2LMXcx8(Not working as expected?)

Is the discussion between Patrick McKeown and James Nestor which I posted in this reply to thread What impact does mouth breathing have on afib/ectopics? Posted 11 days ago.

YouTube has a few videos of Patrick McKeown breathing techniques, also on TED Talks and Dr Chatterjee Podcasts. James Nestor is a research journalist who recently published a book called Breath.

[sotolol in reply to CDreamer]

Thank you

[CDreamer in reply to Barb1]

I missed an ‘e’ out - sorry - it’s McKeown but the Irish pronounce it not as is spelt.

This is his website but he also has videos on YouTube and was interviewed on Dr Chatterjee’s Podcast a few months ago.

buteykoclinic.com/team_memb...

His other web-site is mainly for athletes to improve performance

oxygenadvantage.com/

Look at the thread posted 11 days ago entitled What impact does mouth breathing have on ectopics/AF?

healthunlocked.com/afassoci...

[Barb1 in reply to CDreamer]

Thank you

[sotolol in reply to CDreamer]

Bless you

[secondtry in reply to CDreamer]

Any chance CD of giving me the link to PM's video on this nostril breathing issue, for some reason (i.e. my IT skills) I can't find your post nor does it come up when searching PM.

[secondtry in reply to CDreamer]

Just seen your later post re this video, sorry ignore my request!

[Finvola in reply to secondtry]

CD has said it all - my regime is exactly the same. I started seriously looking at nasal problems when I had horrendous nosebleeds - which it turned out, were caused by allergic reactions. If you use a neti, it is essential that you use cooled boiled water.

I too had one rogue nostril and constant sinus trouble - the neti pot was the answer for me. I use NeilMed saline spray regularly, but had to stop using steroid spray - Avamys I think it was called - as it worsened my nose bleeding. No other side effects that I can think of.

[secondtry in reply to Finvola]

Very useful many thanks

[sotolol in reply to Finvola]

My daughter stated what you said. Thank you

[PlanetaryKim]

Sudafed (pseudoephedrine hydrochloride) definitely gives me arrhythmia. I had to quit using it.

[Guitar335]

I used a decongestant back in August and I am confident it brought on an AF episode. i.e. It was the first time I had AF in 7 months and the drug in decongestants definitely affects the heart. This was confirmed by many people on this forum at the time as I asked for others experience. Proceed with great caution is my view. Best wishes

[Jajarunner]

You could try neilmed nasal spray. Prefer it to a netipot as that makes me feel like I am being waterboarded....!

[sotolol in reply to Jajarunner]

Lol

[Barb1]

Is First Defence Nasal Spray ok?

[sotolol]

Wow thank you all for your input I’ve learnt a lot from you all. Wise lot.

GP told me use when it’s bad for 2 days. YEAH I DON’T THINK SO!! Never spoken to this Doctor before? !

BLESS YOU ALL.

I was about to have a tooth out as dentist gave me antibiotics to calm the infection in tooth. Just about to give me anaesthetic and said he wasn’t happy to remove it. After further x rays the roots of tooth were in the sinus so called sinus toothache. I felt awful never had sinus this bad before.

So feel for you all.

So more antibiotics I didn’t want to take them but the pain in my head 🥺

[Fibber222 in reply to sotolol]

Sorry sotolol I meant to say I take sotolol twice a day!

[Fibber222]

Hi sotolol, I used Sterimar in the summer and that was fine with no Ill effects. I take 120mg sotolol twice a day for PAF but was taking 80mg then. Hope this helps. Love your dog picture by the way!

[sotolol in reply to Fibber222]

Thank you Fibber 22.

After 12 years of sotalol I’m now on Bisoprolol. So I’m using the Sterimar also olbas oil nasal stick. So yes that does work. Cheers

[Fibber222 in reply to sotolol]

So pleased you’ve found something. It’s a pain not using anti-histamine. My cardio said they can interfere with QT system. I have bisopropol as. Pip. 1 on outset and another after 2-3 hrs and then rest. So far haven’t had to resort to that as it’s new regime which started a month ago together with higher dose of sotolol. That sinus thing is horrible.

[sotolol in reply to Fibber222]

It is horrible. I also get a weird smell in my nose. Yuk.

I have Flecainide as pip but like you not tried it yet. Thank goodness. I’ll get an episode now I mentioned it.

Thanks for reply.

[sotolol in reply to Fibber222]

The dog is my granddaughter’s but being at school who else is there to have him. He is my friend I really love him. He makes me laugh. Bless him.