The first study has been published on a correlation between vitamin D status and severity of covid 19 infection . It is a small study ( 218 people) done in the Philippines but it clearly shows that the more deficient in vit D you are the worse the outcome and vice versa. As I am a useless technophobe I cannot post a link but there is a link at the website of Dr Malcolm Kendrick and he discusses the study. There is also a link on vitamindwiki. This might be one of the reasons why BAME persons are suffering so badly from covid as unless supplementing adequately they tend to have vitamin d deficiency . It has been known for ages that those with high vit D status do not catch colds or flu at the same rate as the deficient. Although this study is on the outcomes of those who actually did catch covid further studies should be done on whether vit D will act as a preventative as well. However as I am very cynical I am not counting on this as there is no money to be made unlike for a vaccine.
Good news on covid 19 and vitamin D - AF Association
At this time of year in the UK those who do not supplement will be unlikely to have adequate vit D. What is stored over the winter from last summer is used up. The angle of the sun is only just right to be producing it in the skin and as sunbathing in parks has been forbidden only those who can sunbathe in their gardens can benefit from any sun. Those who live in cities that have lots of pollution benefit less as pollution blocks the UVB. I was diagnosed with a severe vit D deficiency in 2007. I was amazed as I ate plenty of eggs and oily fish ,took cod liver oil supplements and spent far more time outside gardening than I was ever able to do when I lived in Brum. I also took a calcium supplement that contained the 400iu a day recommended then by the NHS. Nobody can assume that they have adequate vit D because they "eat a balanced diet" or "get oug and exercise" . The only way to know for sure is to have it measured . Obese people have worse levels and need higher levels of supplementation.
My diagnosis was in early October. I should have had adequate vit D after summer . You cannot be sure that you will make enough in the summer especially if you are older. Also one needs to sunbathe. Arms and face which catch most sun just walking around outside actually make very little vit D . The most is made by the torso and thighs. These need to be exposed and for sufficient time.
I do not doubt that we have a vitamin difficiency as we get older that compromises our immunity system. It would help to explain as to why the majority of young people seem to handle it better. In my case it would have to be a vitamin that does not set my Afib flying, still, a bit of Afib over Coronavirus, is a bit of a no brainer😕
I’m a bit careful about taking supplements. I’ve managed to find some multivitamins without minerals which I take every other day, so half the recommended dose to be in the safe side. And I do take some extra vitamin c on top of that, which is water soluble so excreted easily and less likely to cause harm. On top of that I eat a balanced diet.
Be wary of taking mineral supplements ... I learnt that lesson the hard way 🙁
Viamin D is neither a vitamin nor a mineral. It is a seco steroid hormone. It is very difficult to get enough from food as the only foods that have substantial amounts are oily fish and egg yolks. There is some in dairy products but only if the cows are raised outside. There is no vit D3 in any non animal product so vegans have to supplement. The main way of getting it is from sunshine but as we age our skins are less efficient at making it.
Thank you for posting this. I had noticed that death rates in Australia were much lower . I also read an article where an Italian doctor was saying that vit D deficiency in the elderly in Lombardy was very high. If one is deficient then taking 1000iu a day will not correct that deficiency for months. Here in France they give a loading dose - an ampoule of 200,000iu. Even in the UK loading doses can be given. My sister had very low vitD and was diagnosed with a parathyroid tumour. She was given a prescription for capsules of 50,000iu twice a week for 6 weeks. She said these made an enormous difference to how she felt including mentally. She was scared she was getting dementia her memory and concentration had got so bad. The vit D got rid of her brainfog .
Is the NVA still 400iu a day? Most vit D researchers reckon you need 8 to 10 times as much. Holick who is one of the foremost vit D researchers in the world says he takes 5000iu a day in winter and ups it to 10,000 at the first sign of a viral infection. The problem is that vit D dosing is very individual. I was unable to keep in the normal range on 3,000iu a day but this dose gave my husband a great level. My doc prescribed drops of an analogue. This is calcifediol what the liver produces when it has processed the cholecalciferol ( vit D3) . These drops work really well for me so I can only assume that my liver was not up to it or that I needed much more than 3,000iu a day. Women generally need more than men because they have more body fat.
Yes, it’s 400iu a day in the UK. I’m reluctant to take more than that without getting my levels checked, which is tricky at the moment. My husband’s been talking about vitamin D supplements for a while now so I’ve ordered for both of us. From what you say, it probably isn’t enough, but we’ll keep on eating foods high in that vitamin, and might do a bit of semi-naked sunbathing when the weather improves again 😂. Glad to have a garden that’s not overlooked!
How old are you? Older skins make vit D far less efficiently. I have taken loading ampoules of 200,000 iu with no ill effect at all. Vit D researchers have taken 10,000 iu a day for months without going out of the upper end of the normal range into the toxic range . Even the UK guidelines give 4000iu as the upper limit. 400iu will hardly increase your levels at all. It certainly won't give you a level of 100nmol/l which is the minimum you should be aiming for. The UK advice on vit D from dosing to range levels is useless. The UK level for what is adequate is the lowest in Europe. You should take a look at some of the vit D research on vitamindwiki.
Unfortunately our skins ( I was 68 last month) only make one third the amount of a twenty year old's! So we have to do more prolonged sunbathing . That is easy here. The sun is warm enough on good days in February even though there is no vit D to be had north of Madrid till the last week in March. I sunbathe in winter to develop a bit of tan so that when the sun is at the right angle to give enough UVB for vit D production I have less risk of burning. But in the UK that is much harder. I am methodical with sunbathing building up slowly and spending up to an hour a day whole body by June. I still wear trousers and elbow length sleeves for gardening though as I have a fair skin and don't tan easily. It can be so hot here in summer that I have had to make a sort of gilet with that silver stuff you see protecting car windows as I can feel the sun burning my back through the t -shirt! Sunbathing is not just good for vit d production. The UVA produces nitric oxide in our bodies that relaxes our arteries and reduces blood pressure.
Please do let me know the results. I have read a lot of the research into vit D over the past 10 years and am convinced of the benefits of having a good level- and by that I don't mean just making it into bottom of the desirable range. There is a huge difference between the bottom of the range and the top and there is no reason why one should not aim for the sort of levels that humans evolved with - ie the sort of levels that those Africans that still live traditionally hanging about in the sun with no clothes on acheive.
Long story ... It was potassium that caused me problems. I had a blood test which showed my potassium levels were too high, so they repeated the blood test and it was even higher. Got a call from my GP and told to go immediately for an ECG as it was borderline dangerous. I ended up in a&e, had to stop taking ace inhibitors immediately in case they were the cause, a rare side-effect, but my dose had recently been increased to replace amlodipine which was causing swollen ankles. I was put back on the amlodipine and now put up with swollen ankles in hot weather!
It did settle down, but it’s made me wary of taking supplements without levels being checked first. That’s why I take vitamins without minerals 😊
I take vit D prescription drops every day. In the past I have had loading ampoules from the doc of 200,000iu at a time. It has never set off an afib attack. It is wise to take magnesium as well if supplementing with vit D as magnesium helps absorption. Some people have reported jitteriness if supplementing a lot that subsequently disappeared with taking magnesium.
Every winter I would get coughs and colds, then 3 winters ago I had a bad case of flu where I lost a stone in weight over 2 weeks. From then on I started taking vitamin D in liquid form and vitamin C, have sailed through the last two winters without as much as a sniffle. I'm hoping I'll be protected from the Covid19 virus too.
I've read that the Chinese used large doses of vitamin C, successfully, to treat their people with the virus.
All this is very interesting; I went to the States a couple of years ago to join my daughter and her family who were touring. We were in Utah and Arizona and I allowed myself safe exposure to the sun every day. What utterly amazed me was the number of Eastern people that were totally covered up. I am talking about large hats, face coverings, jackets and socks and to top it all an umbrella - not a centimetre of skin to be seen.
I’ve take Adcal D3 for years for a bone density issue Osteopenaia, bought from the local chemist at a cost of around £3-4 per month. I’m out and about daily walking the dog and my main holiday is in the winter chasing the sun but still have low Vit D levels. Speak to your GP or pharmacist and ask their advice rather than self medicating with an incorrect dose. My understanding is that vit D is not stored in the body hence requirements for daily doses.
I take the dose prescribed by my GP here in France. Vit D is stored in the body. What is made in the summer is stored for the winter. If it were needed daily life in the Northern hemisphere where there is none from the sun would not have flourished. It is stored in fat. Most GPs in UK would follow the NHS guidelines of 400iu a day which are totally inadequate. They are not up to date with the latest scientific research which is why vit D deficiency is so widespread with all the attendant health problems that this entails. I took some English friends down to our local lab to get their vit D levels tested. They were both very deficient. On returning to UK they showed the results to their GP. He shrugged and told them to buy some in Boots. No advice about what to take. Here they would have been prescribed a loading dose to correct their level quickly . If your levels are still low it is because you are not taking enough for you no matter what it says on the bottle.
My dosage was prescribed by my consultant following delta scan fractured sternum following a minor car accident and advised to take it king term. At £3-4 per-month it’s cheaper to buy over the counter than obtain on prescription......now I get free prescriptions I still buy my little assist to the NHS.
I feel that my consultant and GP have advised correctly vit D is not stored king term by the body.
Everyone approaches this in their own way and for their own reasons. I’ve had 3 fractures so far and will continue with my current does as blood tests indicate my levels remain low.
This is really interesting. I read a report on this forum from someone saying they hadn’t had any colds since they started using it, and so I started taking vit D3 1,000 daily last October. We eat loads of eggs, oily fish etc and I am a dog walker and avid gardener, so no stranger to sunshine.
Now according to NHS 111, I did contract covid19 in the middle of March (yes, I couldn’t get tested because I wasn’t in hospital, so there is a level of uncertainty).
However, despite being 71, the acute phase of the infection was relatively mild. I unfortunately got Swine flu in 2009, and I remember how desperately ill I felt then. Absolutely no comparison in severity.
Another difference though is the time it is taking for me to get back to full health. I still have mildly aching lungs and cough and my viral fatigue is proving stubborn. But maybe that is the difference between being 60 and 71.
You could think about upping your vit D . 1,000iu is a small dose. Many people who were not ill enough to be hospitalised are reporting being wiped out by covid. As more info emerges about it it appears to be a very nasty virus with lots of different ways of buggering up the body. You could also try NAC- n acetyl cysteine. This is good for lung health and if there is any build up of phlegm helps to get rid of it. It also supports the immune system . I take this every day plus vit D and I have not had a cold since March 2016. There's very little covid where I live and I haven't been out for nearly 8 weeks but I am hoping my high levels of vit D will help if I do get it once we are unlocked here . Hope you start to feel better soon.
I had read some months ago that low vitamin D status can affect the lung function. I think it was in relation to people with COPD and those with the lowest levels of the vitamin have worse symptoms. I was mindful to ensure that my vitamin D levels were increased during my covid-19 experience. I don't have COPD, by the way. I'll try and find the paper.
This is true. Asthma also is worse in people with low vit D. It makes you wonder if all these asthmatic kids might be a result of slathering them in sunscreen whenever the sun appears. When I was a child we were encouraged to play outside and sunscreen did not exist. Even so growing up in cloudy rainy Lancashire I was suspected by the heathvisitor of being vit D deficient ( a hint of bandy legs which I am sure was actually genetic). A regime of disgusting cod liver oil every morning was decreed and I was sent for UVB lamp treatment.
Exactly. I read similar reports and wondered if that is why BAME folk suffer more. I copied it to our road whatsapp group as several of our lovely neighbours are BAME and medics. Also my nephew and neice. Working in ITU. also TFL bus drivers are mostly BAME and many death amongst them. Low vit D and germy steering wheels and cabs.
One of the charts in the article show that almost all the people whose serum level of vitamin D was greater than 75nmol/L had a very mild illness with Covid-19. Lower levels were associated with a more severe illness. For anyone that can't get a test done on the NHS, there is an NHS lab which does tests for the public at £29 vitamindtest.org.uk/
I have to take 2000iu daily to keep my levels up
I take drops which my doc prescribes. I keep my level at between 55-70 ng/l ( 137-175nmol/l) . This is very high but still well below the top of the normal range.30ng/l is the start of the desirable range here but the level is lower in the UK. So what is considered an adequate level of vit D in the UK actually puts you in the bracket where you are likely to suffer more from covid 19. Hardly surprising that the death rate there is on course to be the worst in Europe.
It's not at all dodgy Terrricotta. I've used it several times - it's run from the NHS Black Country Pathology services dept. The contact address on the website is
Address: Clinical Biochemistry Department,
Black Country Pathology Services
Birmingham, B18 7QH
That would explain why Covid is so rampant among those in nursing homes. They are locked inside 24/7 and supplementation is not high on the list of necessities according to allopathic medicine.
I use Bio Mulsion Forte drops which provide 2000 IU per drop. I used to take 1 drop a day, but on the advice of our doctor upped it to 3 drops per day to cover me for this virus. My last 25OH2 blood test showed my level to be at 80 ng/ml, which thrilled my cardiologist no end.
I have to say that I have not had any colds or upper respiratory infections or the flu in at least 12 years and I never get a flu shot. That aligns with when our functional medicine doctor sent us to see a board certified nutritionist because of my wife's celiac disease and my non-celiac gluten sensitivity.
He ran the 25OHD and Spectracell Test for Nutrient deficiencies and the Spectracell particle test for cholesterol every 6 months. After each result was back, he changed our supplement doses accordingly.
After a couple years when certain things remained high, like my Homocysteine level and others low, like my wife's B 12 and Vitamin D levels we had nutrigenomic testing done. That is how I found out I have the MTHFR gene mutation. I have to take Methylated forms of folate and B 12 so that the homocysteine stays down.
My wife has a genetic inability to process D and B 12, so even with massive doses her levels barely make it into the normal range. She takes 50,000 units of D once per week. If she tests low, then she takes 50,000 for 3 days, which usually brings it up. We also have been advised to get 20 minutes of sun per day with arms and legs exposed and without any sunscreen. My wife also takes massive doses of Methylated B 12 to keep herself out of the B12 anemia range. When it dips down, she has to go for shots for a couple of week until it comes back up. She also has an issue with antioxidant function and takes 10,000mg of C daily. That has really improved over the years because in the beginning it took 35,000 mg to get to bowel tolerance. She also has to take 750mg of Magnesium in order to not have any migraines, as well as watching her diet strictly.
The key to knowing what to take is to have the right tests run. Don't just guess or your system will get out of balance.
Oh yes, we are in America. We paid thousands of dollars for the testing. It has gotten cheaper over the years.
We were advised by our insurance agent that it probably would be covered, but with our US private health insurance system there used to be an issue with coverage for pre-existing conditions.
Who knew what would turn up and what Big Brother would do with the information?
It is not just the fluoroquinolones I react to, but also every blood pressure drug they have ever tried.
I ended up in the emergency room getting IV morphine after 2 doses of Cipro for a UTI prescribed by my urologist.
To make a long story short, in 2015 I had such back pain after taking Cipro the doctor sent me to the ER thinking I had a kidney stone. I received IV Morphine. All the tests came back negative and I actually did not have any sort of infection, yet the idiot ER doctor prescribed Levaquin, another fluoroquinolone even though my wife and I suspected a drug reaction to the Cipro. He said he was prescribing it "just in case."
I was also referred to an orthopedic surgeon because the back pain was spreading to my legs and I was unable to walk after spending 5 hours in the ER. The orthopedic surgeon wanted me to have an MRI, but the insurance company said I had to wait 6 weeks to see if I still needed it.
My wife was not happy about any of this and dragged me to the Functional Medicine Doctor. He reviewed my records and immediately zeroed in on the Cipro and my MTHFR. He sent me to a neurologist and it was finally determined that the Cipro caused nerve damage in my back and legs. It took me about 4 months to recover. Needless to say the Levaquin went in the trash and I will never take another fluroquinolone!
Back in the late 1980's my wife was having terrible sinus infections and was prescribed Cipro. She also started having terrible tendon problems including chronic tendinitis and small tears in her Achilles. She was constantly at the orthopedic surgeon getting shots of cortisone into her shoulder, elbow, hand, thumb, ankle etc. At the time, we did not know about the connection between Fluoroquinolones and tendon problems. It took about 20 years until a savvy doctor figured out that the drug was the cause of her problem after reviewing her prescription history. Sadly, for her the damage is done and she has had problems for the past 33 years. The cortisone shots probably made everything worse. She maxed out on the number of injections allowed into each tendon before we knew of the dangers of those! No wonder they call it the practice of medicine.
I have a similar tale of woe. I believe I was first floxed in 1989 after being given courses of antibiotics for sinus problems. I remember shortly afterwards having Achilles tendon problems. Later that year I developed excruciating back pain. This continued on and off for years. Knee pain also set in. Falling blood sugar , nausea, tendonitis in the base of my thumbs. I think I was given Cipro again in 1999 along with Pred for severe bronchitis following flu. Then the rib pain started. I had Cipro iv again in 2014 for acute diverticulitis . This time cardiac reaction and neuropathy. After 2 days they stopped it but did not tell me it was a reaction to the drug and I should never have it again. Again prescribed it by my GP in 2015 for suspected UTI. I took one pill only then looked it up and discovered floxing and all my health problems of the last quarter century fell into place. One week later I was in the cardiac ward with afib.I am now nearly five years out. I have tendon pain all over and no cartilage at all in my right hip. At 68 I move around like a 90 year old some days. I have given up on ever healing from this. I suspect the left hip is going too. Once all this covid had died down I will get a replacement. FQs are poison
So sorry that you too have had to deal with being floxed. Some of the stories on the website created by survivors are just horrifying and make what my wife and I went through look like nothing.
In the US they have stopped making Levaquin, but the other drugs in the class are still available. I get angry when I hear that friends and relatives are taking it for relatively minor illnesses, when there are so many other, less toxic drugs, available to treat them. So many people just take whatever the doctor says as gospel and they take the drugs handed out without ever thinking they could be harmed. Sadly, we have seen our niece deteriorate in front of our eyes, but she will not ever consider that it could be the medical care she is getting and she has been given repeated doses of Cipro for Sinus infections.
No drug passes our lips until a full investigation of possible adverse effects and we do a risk/benefit analysis. More than a few doctors hate that attitude because they are arrogant enough to believe they know it all. Whenever possible we turn to homeopathic and natural remedies now and actually have been doing much better.
Indeed. Despite my skeletal problems I still consider that I have only been mildly floxed. It is terrible to have to witness what is happening to your niece and especially knowing how much worse it could get if she continues to take Cipro. Can you not point out to her that even the FDA has said that FQs should not be used for banal infections like sinusitis and uncomplicated UTI? And that in continuing to prescribe her doctor is going against the latest advice. My sinusitis was fixed by acupuncture.
We sent her all the information about Cipro, which she promptly took to her doctor. He assured her that it was perfectly safe, even though it carries a black box warning.
In the end, what cured my wife of her chronic sinus infection was Oil of Oregano. She heard a radio show one evening about it and called in. They told her to get the doctor to check for a fungal infection since any bacteria would have already been killed from all the Cipro, Amoxil, Ceclor and other antibiotics she had been given over the previous year.
The doctor was reluctant, but took the swab and sent it out to be tested. She started taking the Oil of Oregano as soon as she was tested, and by the time she got the results that it was a fungal infection, she was over it. The doctor did a second swab and the fungus was gone! "I'll be damned. Learn something new everyday," was his response. We always have Oil of Oregano capsules and the oil on hand just in case.
Interesting that Dr Malcolm Kendrick referred to several times in this thread takes 4000IU per day. What needs stressing again is the need for a loading dose of at least 200,000IU. Otherwise it takes months to get up to usefully high levels.
Vitamin D has been known for decades. Perhaps the NHS should speedily send some loading doses to all old and vulnerable. Vit D3 liquid is cheap -- even developing countries have it.
Our son, who is immunocompromised, was prescribed a loading dose 50,000 IU for 3 days. Then, he had to wait 2 weeks before going on 5,000 IU daily.
His level was only 30ng and the doctor was not satisfied. After this situation with the virus resolves he is suppose to be retested. He may have the genetic mutation that my wife has that makes it very difficult to get the levels up to where the doctor wants them, and keep them there.
My wife's gene mutation that impacts Vitamin D processing does not impact her liver. However, as soon as those results came back the doctor immediately tested her iodine levels and thyroid. Her thyroid was OK, but she had very low iodine levels. It took a year to get that up to normal.
We do know that our immunocompromised son is what they call a Slow Acetylator, which means he has trouble clearing drugs from his system that have to be metabolized by the liver. We found that out when he developed Drug Induced Lupus from Minocycline when he was 17. He also has liver damage from the Plaquenil, Voltaren and Prednisone they gave him for 18 months during the time he was misdiagnosed as having Systemic Lupus.
See why we hate the medical profession?
I suspect I might have ghat as I am very susceptible to drugs. I had hives this winter and took Cetirizine. One quarter of a pill kept away the hives for 4/5 days! But I still got side effects and had to stop taking it- result withdrawal itching in areas that the hives had never come like my scalp , palms and soles of feet. I know how you feel about doctors. On the whole I have no confidence in them and I am afraid of being in a position where I have no control over what they dose me with. I have a dog tag necklace that says "No Fluoroquinolones " and have decided I would rather die than be floxed again ( and worse the next time).
The medical evidence is all in favour of what you say. Men and Women, especially older people. In some of the papers I have read it is not even necessary to test for blood levels first, since the Vitamin D is cheap and safe. This applies even to people who live in tropical countries, because in these climates you become expert at subconsciously avoiding the sun.I would argue for 600,000IU taken maybe over 2-3 months.
The consensus on vitamindwiki seems to be that regular doses work better than sporadic loading doses. A loading dose to up levels initially is necessary as doses of 2/3000iu a day will take months to correct a deficiency. Once the deficiecy is corrected with a loading dose maintenance doses either daily or weekly can be given. Testing will then determine if the maintenance doses are sufficient to achieve a good level. This was my own experience. My deficiency was corrected with a loading dose. I then received these ampoules sporadically but in between my levels would fall and then could not make it into the desirable range even on 3000iu a day purchased at Boots (vitD3 is not avaiable for over the counter purchase in the pharmacies here so I would get a stock on visits to the UK) .My GP suggested drops of calcifediol and taken daily. These work very well for me and lead me to suspect that either my liver was just not doing a very good job of processing the cholecalciferol or that I needed much more than 3,000iu a day due to being overweight. By contrast my husband (not overweight) achieved a level of 47ng/ l on the 3000iu. We both sunbathe but he can spend longer in the sun as his skin is darker. I really don't understand people being so wary of taking more than the outdated and useless NHS recommendation of 400iu a day. If they read the research available online they would see that it is very hard to become toxic and just how wrong this advice is. They are actually jeopardising their health far more by not taking larger amounts than by sticking to this advice and having a poor level. Because the research is clear - in the absence of full body regular (daily) year round sun exposure it is hard to achieve levels that will ensure good health. The propaganda over the last 2 decades against sun exposure has ensured widespread vitD deficiency and even a reappearance of rickets.
Hi again Auriculaire
I said I’d let you know the results of my vitamin D test. I received them this morning after a two week wait.
Total vitamin D 40.7 nmol/L = insufficient
Broken down into vitamin D3 -24.7 nmol/L and vitamin D2 - 16 nmol/L
Since taking the test 2 weeks ago I’ve been taking a supplement of1200 IU a day. I hope this will be enough to get me up to a sufficient 50 nmol/L
My husband is still waiting for his results.
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
I hope you’re safe and well
The D3 is what counts. 50nmol/ is NOT sufficient . This is the equivalent of 20ng/l which is not considered sufficient here in France and the rest of Europe. Here the sufficiency is 30ng/l ie 75 nmol / l and they don't waste resources measuring D2 which is what plants produce. The UK is behind with it's low levels for adequacy. The studies done on vit D levels in covid patients clearly show that less than 75 n mol/l landed you in the suffering badly / dying group. 1200iu a day will not cut it in raising your D3 rapidly enough to have any worthwhile protection if you were unfortunate enough to catch the virus. At the University hospital at Angers here they are running a clinical trial giving covid patients either 400,000 iu (at once) or 50,000iu. They know from experience here that these huge loading doses are completely safe. So if you want to get up to a safe level of vit D (ie 75nmol/l minimum and preferably much higher ) you need to take at least 4000iu a day for a couple of months then test again to see where you are. As you can see from your results following the recommended 400iu a day has been useless in giving you an adequate level and it would be for all adults if that was their only source of D3. A young white person's body will make between 5000 and 10,000iu in 20 minutes of midday sun in summer if they expose all of it. Why on earth the numpties of SACN thought that 400iu was sufficient is a mystery.
Tiredness is definitely a symptom of vit D deficiency. My sister was given high dose capsules to correct hers when her parathyroid adenoma was discovered as she had to wait for the op and she said it made a huge difference to her energy levels. I think they were 50,000iu and she took 2 a week for a month. Also to her memory and concentration. She had been terrified she was getting dementia as her cognitive abilities were declining.
Sadly this does not surprise me. Vit D deficiency is at epidemic levels in many countries. The decades of stupid advice on sun avoidance and slathering yourself with noxious chemical laden creams has compounded this. The Russians had stats 50 years ago that women who sunbathed topless had less breast cancer. I am a cynic and always say follow the money. Well here the money trail leads to L'Oreal who are well implicated in this - just like Nestlé were in the scandal of advising mothers in third world countries to use formula milk rather than breastfeed.
Thanks for your response Auriculaire. I hadn’t realised my levels were so short of optimal. My husband’s had his results now and his are even worse than mine at 25 nmol/L. As you can imagine, he’s quite concerned. He’s of Asian origin! I’m going to show him what you’ve said. Although he’s a retired physician he isn’t au fait with the latest studies on this vitamin. Sounds as if he needs some high dosing.
Do not be surprised if your GP does not take the matter seriously enough. I am incensed ( though not surprised) that there has been absolutely no mention at all of these vit D level studies in relation to covid severity on the BBC news.. This is especially bad in the light of the surveys into the vulnerability of BAME persons in the UK and USA to covid. Even taking into account factors of poverty ,poor housing , liklihood of being in more exposed jobs etc BAME persons were still almost twice as likely to die as white people. The red flag for me was when nearly all the docs and hospital consultants who were dying were BAME. Consultants are not poor but many are unfortunately probably ignorant of both their vit D status and it's importance for immune function. This is the key. The low levels recommended by SACN are all to do with the prevention of rickets and osteomalacia and nothing else. There seems to be no awareness at all of the importance of vit D in immune function or general health. The desirable range for vit D runs from 75 nmol/ l to 250nmol/ l here. Most vit D researchers say we should aim for a minimum of 90nmol/ l and preferably be in the 125- 200 nmol/l range. To say that 50nmol/l is sufficient is in my opinion verging on criminal negligence. Given that the experience with loading doses has shown them to be safe I cannot understand why people are not being urged to take vit D to bolster their immune systems . It would do them a lot more good than constantly washing their hands to the tune of Happy Birthday.
I’m not expecting much of a reaction from our GP to be honest, but will ring him anyway.
I agree with you. I know I was a bit sceptical to start with, but having read what you say and done some research I’m with you. We both are.
Every Saturday we ring my husband’s family who live in the USA and Canada ... today I’m going to urge these darkish-skinned people to have their Vit D levels checked if they haven’t already. I might even write something on my Facebook page, as I feel the need to get the word out there. My own family are fair-skinned but I’ve let them know about it anyway and might treat them all to a test! Thanks Auriculaire 💐
I'm not sure how many you are intending to buy but where I bought mine were heavily discounted for a pack of 10.
They did warn that turnaround was about 14 days at the moment.
"Anyone with a very low level should be careful." Unless you know for certain that your low level is natural for you and not because you are deficient you would be wiser to get out of the deficient range . Have you tried raising your level with consistent sun exposure rather than taking supplements? Have you taken magnesium alongside the vit D? Vit D supplementation can lead to feeling unwell one has low magnesium levels as the two work together .
I’ve just spoken to my sister-in-law who lives in Canada. She tells me her doctor has been trying to get her to take vitamin D supplements for years but she’s resisted as she felt she was taking enough pills already! She’s a retired anaesthetic so I must have sounded as if I was trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs, but she hadn’t realised that she could be deficient. She’s promised me she’ll have a test done.
Likewise my brother-in-law who lives in the USA.
I feel as if I might be improving the “R” rate - getting the word out there! 😊
It just goes to show how profound the ignorance about the necessity for vit D is even among doctors! Asians often tend to avoid the sun especially women - I suspect because it darkens their complexion and paler skin is culturally more desirable. If they are Muslim there is often the religious habits of covering . Hindus often do not eat the foods rich in vit D like liver, oily fish and eggs especially if they are strict vegetarians. It is even more essential for them to get tested.