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I just want to share this with all my Afibers

Four years ago I had my first attack of afib

I was scared and concerned always been fit and healthy

I stayed an overnight on a medical ward and I reverted back to sinus Rhythm by the morning

Cardiology review came back normal heart function

I remember sitting with my cardiologist and asking him

What happened and what caused this

He shock his head and said we don’t know why

But we will give u medication

At this point I refused because it did not make any sense to take meds if I did not know the cause

I was having 4 episodes a month lasting for a scary 8 hours with a heart rate of 170

I researched and researched I needed to get to the bottom of this

Then light bulb moment happened I realised

My body was under stress for four years and I had burnt myself out yes burnt out

Now I know what that means my poor body was exhausted I was running on an empty tank

I decided to stop all crap food no caffeine at all stop all process sugars don’t drink alcohol

then I put back all the important vitamins

Such as magnesium taurate C-q10 vit C l-cartine and vit -D

Gradually the episodes were decreasing until since 2017 when they stopped altogether

I realised if no heart problems then afib could just be a nutrient deficiency.

Wanted to share this with U all

Because afib does not progress if u treat it right it’s not a disease but a symptom your body is trying hard to say something’s needed

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CDreamer profile image
CDreamer

Well done you! I agree with everything you have said & so wish I had someone to counsel me & explain all of that to me about 10 years before I had figured that out too!

Unfortunately for me the damage was already done so although I am now managing my conditions so much better, I have had to accept that I will never be totally well again.

Best wishes CD

No problems with any of that. Click on my username and scroll through some of my posts.

John

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CDreamer

I don’t know if you read it but I posted this article by a US Intagrative Nutritionist Cardiologist that I follow a few days ago - it’s about how women’s hearts & dysfunctions are SO different.

heartmdinstitute.com/health...

Also lots of excellent nutritional advice, articles on AF & great recipes!

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Jamila123 in reply toCDreamer

Thanks x

BobD profile image
BobDVolunteer

Totally agree which is why we push life style changes . It may not remove the underlying pre-disposition to AF but in most cases it does drastically reduce the AF burden and for some like you improve QOL completely.

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Finvola

Agree completely Jamila - healthy living has never once been mentioned to me in over six years of medical treatment. I learned it from this forum and by reading the AFA website.

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secondtry

Yes, I totally agree also.

The best news I had from the medics, like you when originally diagnosed, was that I had Lone PAF; that said to me this is not an emergency where you have to hand over to the medics & pills there is a lot you can do yourself. Like you I did a lot but probably not enough and have had 6 years of increasingly good quality of life. However, with this 'beast' there are few grounds of complacency and I continue to search for more clues to fix it without it dominating my life.

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Jamila123 in reply tosecondtry

It’s all about oxidation and Inflammation

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Reena09

Thats great! I suffer from PAF and dont know when I actually go into AF. I asked the EP whether it would be worth starting Magnesium supplements and he said there is nothing to prove that it can work. Who should i speak to and is there a standard magnesium I could take as well as Co q 10?

I recently purchased an apple watch and don't want to get into the habbit of checking this but can see from my pulse that I have recently been in AF for c. two days. and yet still have no idea. I have a well balanced diet and have been a vegetarian my whole life. I am 71 years old and would like to prevent this from prgressing quickly.

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Jamila123 in reply toReena09

Interesting

Problem is orthodox look at things different

My background is an A & E nurse

However I have trained in herbal medicine

And nutrition

Love is real prove it Lolol

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Reena09 in reply toJamila123

What magnesium supplement do you take and what dosage?

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Reena09 in reply toJamila123

Would it be okay if I emailed you?

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Jamila123 in reply toReena09

Look at your diet

Cut completely out processed sugars

No alcohol

Excerise just walk for now

Magnesium

Cq10

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Reena09 in reply toJamila123

What type of magnesium do you take?

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CDreamer in reply toReena09

This is the best site I have found for information.

heartmdinstitute.com/heart-...

You can see a Nutitionist or Lifestyle Medince Doctor but after tests etc expect to pay £ 1000-1500 but I haven’t found on in the UK who specialises in cardiology like Dr Sinatra.

Dr Gupta at York Cardiology is the nearest.

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Jamila123 in reply toCDreamer

go To naturopath nutrition health provider

They don’t have to be a doctor

People need to know that having a doctors title does not mean they have knowledge

It’s about studying passion and the school of thought

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CDreamer in reply toJamila123

So have I - for 40 years & I wok with 2 Lifestyle Doctors who are have dual trainings. This Dr who is both cardiologist + naturopath offers The best advice I’ve come across for general, specialised heart health.

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Jamila123 in reply toCDreamer

I too years experience in London AccideNt emergency

NHS

Does not take on board life style like holistic

Health professionals

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CDreamer in reply toJamila123

Sadly most don’t however - do you know about Nutritank?

nutritank.com/

Formed by medical students in Med School as a pressure group pressing for more training in lifestyle medicine.

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stoneyrosed

Brilliant post Jamila123, gives hope to people who have recently been diagnosed with Afib. I have been on beta blockers for 18mth and now I have decided to try the same as you have done. I wonder if it would be possible if you could tell me where I can find some of the research you have done and all of the vitamins you replenished your body with ( I know you mentioned 3 were there anything else you took?) My social life involved alcohol and I know I will have to give up that part of my life, how did you cope with that part of your life did you have to sacrifice certain friends and activities to get yourself well? I worry about the psychological side of it and depression setting it, do you have any tips regarding that? Sorry for asking all these questions but I am fascinated by your resilience and strength. You have given me hope and hope is all I have left. Hope you can help, massive regards 👍

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Jamila123 in reply tostoneyrosed

Please email me better

June_nursing@hotmail.com

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CDreamer in reply toJamila123

Jamila - please delete your last post with email. Not a good idea on open forum for your own safety. Use the. HU PM service to contact individuals. It works well.

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CDreamer in reply toJamila123

To delete post - click on ‘more’ for options to edit, delete etc.

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doodle68

More confirmation of the importance of lifestyle changes following the Legacy study..

medpagetoday.com/blogs/skep...

When diagnosed with P-AF 3 years ago I instantly followed the recommendations, lost 1.5 stone/increased exercise and sleep/ no alcohol /avoid stress / eat a mediterranean diet /take appropriate supplements of magnesium taurate and Q10 .

My episodes of P-AF reduced from every couple of weeks to every few months until last December when they have increased again .

I like to think my lifestyle changes have bought me a couple of extra years with minimal P-AF :-) .

I am also fitter than I have been for years and have just increased my exercise levels, I don't get as much in the winter when there isn't any gardening and wonder if that is contributing to more episodes. I am not stressing about it :-) I can live with my P-AF, people live with much worse health conditions.

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Reena09 in reply todoodle68

Where do you buy the magnesium and co q 10 supplement?

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doodle68 in reply toReena09

Hi Reena :-) from Amazon or the suppliers direct...

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Jamila123 in reply toReena09

Bio care

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secondtry in reply todoodle68

For exercise winter or summer rain or shine, I walk briskly twice a day for 1.5 miles. Sounds too simple and low tech but I think it is one key to keeping AF at bay.

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doodle68 in reply tosecondtry

...so do I ST :-) but you can't walk at speed through thick mud which I have had surround me in the fields since November and a brisk speed is required to raise the heart rate.

I usually walk 4 miles a day in the summer. I have now increased my daily exercises at home to compensate .

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