Heart rate ?

[Eirecara]

Good morning😊, I had a.fib yesterday for about 5 hours. Three of which my hr would drop to 80 then up to 170+. My question is, at what hr do you, or should one, go to AnE? ☘️

FYI. The a.fib kicked off 20 min after eating a bowl of “cornflakes”. That’s the second time, so now I must add cornflakes to my triggers.☘️

[BobD Volunteer]

I never did go to A and E. AF is a chronic condition and needs to be treated as such not an emergency for most people. If you have chest pain or fainting yes get medical assistance.

[jedimasterlincoln]

Everyone is different.

2-5 years ago if my HR was AF and 120 I'd have to go to A&E because I would have shortness of breath (like I was winded constantly) and feel like I was about to pass out. BP would be low and I wouldn't be able to put my socks and shoes on.

More recently, I can do all of the above with HR higher, and I don't get the symptoms until Hr is about 150-180.

If it persists at a point where it's "debilitating" or is quite clearly fast for more than a couple of days I'd probably present to ED because it needs checking out. The last episode I had, 6 weeks post ablation, the HR was resting at 110 and fairly regular, but after 30 hours it settled and I didn't feel "unwell" as I was able to do most things around the house without issue just pacing myself.

Everyone is different however.

[ling in reply to jedimasterlincoln]

Sorry if this sounds stupid but still very new to AF.

"More recently, I can do all of the above with HR higher"

May I ask, why more recently u are able to do all of the above?

Thank you

[jeanjeannie50]

Have searched for a video I once saw re the iron filings added to cornflakes. This one is old but says the same thing:

youtube.com/watch?v=5ahlawr...(Not working as expected?)

[Eirecara in reply to jeanjeannie50]

😳.....proof that we don’t know what is in our “processed” food. Thank you Jean🌻

[Dickydon in reply to Eirecara]

All the reason to avoid eating this and all other junk food.

Iron filings in our food = heart disease, cancer, diabetes, memory loss, fatigue, irritability, vitamin depletion, alzheimer's, skin problems, and a million other causative problems too many to list; the very reason why we have so many complicated illnesses in the west.

Where and when did it all go wrong?

[Hidden in reply to jeanjeannie50]

One way for vegans to get the iron they need. All safe and approved apparently.

[Finvola in reply to jeanjeannie50]

😩 It can join the microplastic beads and other rubbish in processed food - just like a junkyard.

[Finvola]

That sounds really miserable Eirecara. Going to A&E has to be a personal decision for each of us, especially if there is no chest pain and/or collapse - because in that case the decision is straightforward.

I consider things like - the journey to the hospital - for me, from quiet country Ireland to a large city, the day and time (here Friday night late is a nightmare), what can be done for me, can I face it all? I found it better to relax at home in peace and quiet but a heart rate of 170 might have changed my mind.

Cornflakes!?!?! Mind you, jeanjeannie’s video is enlightening and whilst one event after eating them could be co-incidence, twice sounds like a pattern. xx

[Eirecara in reply to Finvola]

There is a general hospital here in Kilkenny, about 5 minutes away. I went to my gp surgery and had an ecg done, which showed 179 irreg irreg a.fib. with st depression. She wanted to call an ambulance but I declined, went home took extra fleicinide and bisoprolol and hoped for the best☘️

[Drounding]

Maybe it's the milk not the cornflakes?

[Eirecara in reply to Drounding]

Definitely not the milk. ☘️

[radagast58]

I think the decision whether to go to the emergency unit with a prolonged episode of AF is not straightforward. My AF was related to a dilated aortic root and incompetent aortic valve plus coronary artery disease which I had surgery for last year. With "lone AF" I think if you have chest pain or tightness, shortness of breath and are feeling faint and dizzy you should call 999

[Hidden]

Shorthand for Accident and Emergency Dept in UK, equivalent to ER in US

[Eirecara]

Yes I agree. I have an appointment to see an EP specialist in October (long waiting lists) re an ablation. ☘️

[Eirecara]

Yes, our health service is sadly lacking. My app in October is just to see the EP, I will then have to wait possibly another 9/12 months for the ablation. It’s extremely difficult.