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Most accurate Heart rate tracker please?

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I really don't believe either of my HR tracker / smart watches.I have a Huawei Fit watch 2 and a Fitbit charge.They both show totally different on HR and steps.If I take a resting HR they will both show more or less the same as my Kardia equivalent or Fibricheck app.

It is when out & about or sleeping.

I cannot afford Apple watch & iPhone.

Any experiences please

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Buzby62

I believe all these wearables including Apple Watch have accuracy issues with background HR checks and the information should only be used as an indication and not a calibrated result. They use LED light and optical sensors looking for blood movement through the skin which can be distorted by many things including arm movements.

Some of the devices also use electrodes to perform ECG checks or take HR checks electrically which is much more accurate but have to be manually instigated using a finger on the other hand to make a circuit.

Apple explain the ways HR is captured on the following link. support.apple.com/en-us/HT2...

Best wishes

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cbc0510

I use a Garmin Vivosmart 4 which seems pretty accurate on HR, activity, sleep etc, and is easy to use. There's a "5" version now but I like the 4 as it's quite small.and unobtrusive.

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SlothOnSpeed

Hi, if you are into exercise, you can’t go wrong with the Polar H10 chest strap. Very accurate. You can use it with a smart phone app if your watch is not compatible. Google it. Also specials on at the moment. Ellie

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kkatz in reply toSlothOnSpeed

Thanks Ellie.I have tried chest strap but I want something I can wear all the time .I tried Polar unite watch which has lots of niggles & needs charging every day.

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SlothOnSpeed in reply tokkatz

Hope you find something appropriate kkayz. Good luck

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JezzaJezza

Hi I’m sorry this isn’t the answer you are looking for but in my personal experience the most accurate wearable device is the Apple Watch.

My cardiologist was delighted when I was able to show her ecg readings from it. She said they 100% trust Apple recordings because multiple studies have proven their accuracy.

I only take mine off for 1 hour a day to charge it and the data and level of detail it provides is mental.

Best wishes.

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babs1234 in reply toJezzaJezza

My doctor was amazed too and took readings herself which showed the same results as my Apple Watch.

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kkatz in reply toJezzaJezza

Sorry but I would have to also buy an iPhone.There is no way I can afford a minimum of £400 - 500 .

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Buffafly

Hi, when I made this objection a poster recommended buying second hand which can make a huge difference to the price. If I cared about recording my heart rate accurately I’d buy an Apple Watch - already have a basic Apple phone. I am thinking of doing that because I have the very occasional ’funny turn’ when I suddenly feel as if I’m going to pass out and short of having a long term monitor which no one is suggesting it’s the only way to tell if the cause is a sudden drop in heart rate. Why do you want an accurate record of HR? Btw, you can ignore step count discrepancies, my fitness tracker only records steps if my arm is swinging by my side 😂 I’ve been up, gone to loo, made coffee, breakfast, played with cat and my watch is stuck on 0 steps.

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kkatz in reply toBuffafly

The reason I want constant tracking is I know my HR is erratic but just how low or high & for how long I don't know.I know I feel so bad sometimes.At the moment I have ectopics 16 months after successful AFib ablation.Steps are not really that important.

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ozziebob

Have you thought of the Wellue ecg device and wearing 2 electrode pads on your chest for continuous heart rate and single lead ecg monitoring? The improved model comes in 2 versions, <=24 hours for £234, and £289 for <=72 hours. This new model also gives a small real-time ecg visual display on the device, and limited AI interpretation via the App, but you would need a laptop for the full AI interpretations using downloaded software. And changing electrodes every 24 hours, if that's what you need, might become a cost too far.

I don't have a laptop, but the limited AI via the App, plus the nighttime monitoring, appeals to me and my concerns (which would be only occasional continuous and nighttime monitoring). The initial price is high, but way cheaper than the combined cost of an Apple watch and an Apple phone.🤔

Good luck with finding what you need.

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kkatz in reply toozziebob

Thanks may have a look at that

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kkatz in reply toozziebob

Seems a good idea.Could be awkward to wear constantly but great in some circumstances and good prices on Amazon at the moment.I am hoping to see GP as my feeling bad at the moment might be lung related.

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ozziebob in reply tokkatz

K,

Be careful on Amazon re discounts, as I only saw older products when I looked just now.

I was referring to a newer version of their original 24 hour ecg recorder, for use with either a chest strap or 2 electrodes. I described some of the extra features of the newer version (which comes in 2 models, 24 or 72 hour versions) in my original reply to you. Prices of both have risen on the Wellue website by £2 in the last few days (currency variation?), with the 72 hour version now at £291. Here is the device I am referring to ...

getwellue.com/products/ecg-...

Good luck with whatever you get. Just a few days ago I read about a Forum member who uses the chest electrode patches with this device at night without problems. But not me, yet, as I don't have the need of others at the moment.

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ozziebob in reply tokkatz

PS. Sorry, in my rush to reply I missed your "feeling bad". Hope you recover soon.

However, to finish my previous reply, the person who recently bought a Wellue device and gives her thoughts in a Post, along with interesting comments by others, is JaneFinn . You might like to read her recent Post ...

healthunlocked.com/afassoci...

bob

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kkatz in reply toozziebob

Long post so beware.Thanks for the link mixed feelings after reading it all.Probably not for me at the moment as I particularly want to check when out walking or when sleeping.I started suffering from increasing ectopics about 2 months ago and felt so exhausted.Really bad ache in lower rib cage at back and upper back area if I walked more than a mile or generally did do much.

Arrythmia nurses said treatment for ectopics could be worse than living with them.

I did a spreadsheet of Emay(Kardia) readings showing frequency had increased and so so often.He asked for some readings .May 7th he suggested I stop Diliatazem and I saw a great improvement in lots of ways.I didn't mention rib pain as this has been there for quite a while and wanted to come off the Diltiazem to see if that helped before checking with GP.

Been on a a 4 day trip and averaged 12 to 18k steps and ache so bad I had to resort to strong painkillers.

So trying to find causes at the moment.I have been discharged from EP but fortunately Arrythmia nurses have been there for me.

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ozziebob

K(?),

Not sure I understood your reasoning when you said "not for me at the moment as I particularly want to check when out walking or when sleeping", as this is exactly how I would use it if I bought one. But as I have polio related mobility restrictions now, and I don't really walk anywhere except inside my flat, my use would effectively be confined to night-time discernment of possible arrhythmias of which I am unaware. I would use the chest electrode pads for that. And this is important to me because, for other reasons (see my Bio), I haven't started anticoagulants yet , but am unsure of whether I have an extra night-time AF/arrhythmia burden which could tip the balance of this decision in my mind.

But you mention you already have an ecg device and I can understand you might be happier with a cheaper simpler watch type device.

So while I'm obviously rather envious of your "step" count, especially in regards to my declining cardio fitness, (are you pushing for a record?), please ask your GP about your "bad ache in lower rib cage at back and upper back area"..."which has been there for quite a while". This doesn't seem to relate to known diltiazem side effects, so please refer this to your GP asap.

And let me know the outcome please.

bob

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kkatz in reply toozziebob

Hubby wanted to see so much hence the high step count which really was too much and we got some really funny looks when I screamed "I cannot do any more"when on Llandudno pier.

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