Pacemaker/Kardia

Purely out of interest, does anyone know what reading you would get if you used a Kardia with a pacemaker?

[BobD Volunteer]

Trust you FJ! Since the PM controls ventricular rate I would hope it shows NSR but honestly cant tell you. My first thought was if you had a PM why would you want a Kardia?

[Hidden in reply to BobD]

Well..... this afternoon I payed a visit on a friend who had just had one fitted and he knew I had one and asked the question. We gave it a try and the report bore little relation to anything I had seen previously and was (not surprisingly) unclassified so I’m guilty of being a bit mischievous....🤪

[baba]

See reply, by DrDave01, to the following post:

healthunlocked.com/afassoci...

[doodle68]

Hi Flapjack when reading the frequently asked questions on the Kardia site recently I noticed this....

Question:I have a pacemaker or ICD. Can I still use KardiaMobile?

Answer:Our devices have not been tested for and are not intended for use with pacemakers and ICD’

[CDreamer]

My husband has a pacemaker & it shows & identifies AF quite clearly, ectopics & Tachycardia. Obviously it doesn’t show bradycardia as it is set to only kick in if HR drops below 60 so it’s not operational 100% of the time. I can quite see it wouldn’t be of use after AV ablation.

[Rachel191272]

I have a pacemaker (and ongoing arrhythmias). When I’m being paced it shows a broad complex rhythm (it will say it’s ‘unclassified’).

[Babyr1996]

I get loads of unclassified but someone put a link to DrDave01 reply to my post yesterday I learned a lot so really a useless item to have when you have a pacemaker as it fools the ecg into being LBBB when it’s not it the pacemaker pacing quite confusing I think my Kardia device will be passed onto someone who can get proper use of it as I can’t rely on it showing accuracy for me with a pacemaker. It always shows NSR

But do read the conversation I had with DrDave01 yesterday you can pass info into your friend then too

[LindaDaisy]

Read the link. I’m still confused. My EP recommended a Kardia. More for my interest than anything as he knows I’m a person who want to be informed and in control. (And who can feel in control with PAF!!!!!)

I have LVNC and PAF. I have an ICD which also paces me if I drop below 60. I’ve been told I am paced about 75% of the time. But most of my readings are normal. When I’m in AF or SVT is says possible AF or unclassified. Sometimes I feel unwell but my pulse is normal (60 and regular), at these times my Kardia says unclassified. Not sure what’s going on then.

My biggest complaint is after paying a lot of money for the Kardia, the app now wants nearly £100 a year to make me a “Premium member” I don’t want any of the features except one and .now I can’t save my history. One of the reasons I brought the Kardia is so I have a history easily visible. Now I have to email each reading to myself and it’s not simple to show anyone. Bit annoyed.

[momist in reply to LindaDaisy]

Yes, you can save your history! Use the so called 'email' facility in the Kardia App, and it will ask you where to store the file. Personally, I send mine into my Dropbox folder so that I can see it on any of my devices, and can then attach it to emails or print it off, if I wish. You probably already have some 'cloud' storage somewhere, (Apple? Google?) and I'm sure any would work. If not, you can get a small amount for free from Dropbox, and the files are not very big.

[LindaDaisy in reply to momist]

I do email it to myself and keep it stored in my email but it’s not as good as being able to scroll down the readings and see all the details easily. I could do this when I first got my Kardia and I resent the fact that they now want money for something that was free to start with. I wouldn’t of minded paying a small sum but they want more than the Kardia cost each year.

[Hidden in reply to LindaDaisy]

I bought my Kardia early on and I seem to have been given free premium membership as I can see the history and produce reports on it.

[Hidden]

I though you could not use them with a pacemaker as they are delicate creatures and anything electrical (like a radio or bedside light) sometimes upsets them so they give "unreadable" results-