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Kardia mobile Possible AF ecg

Babyr1996
Babyr1996

This is the Kardia mobile ecg if anyone can help in letting me know if this is AF or just ‘interference’ as I’m quite often told by medics so don’t want to go in saying I’ve had episode if it’s not!! I’m useless at understanding these. Thank you any advice gratefully received

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Hidden
Hidden

Doesn't look like interference and it does state Possible Atrial Fibrillation. What rate is this. ...can't make it out. It doesn't look fast. I would show it to your medic

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to Hidden

Rate 89 thanks

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Babyr1996

Have you taken your reading again and is it still AF?

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to Hidden

This was yesterday I didn’t do it again no not immediately after about 5 mind later I did and it was unclassified as i was going 122bpm and was outside the perimeters

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Babyr1996

If it was AF at 122 it would normally still say possible AF. This had been shown to me many times when my rate has been 130/180/234 etc etc I get lots of unclassified when my rate is over 100..which is very frequent these days.....and called Atrial Tachycardia ( or flutter ).

Still worth showing to your doc when you get a chance in my humble opinion!

Sandra

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to Hidden

Thanks x

hock217
hock217 in reply to Hidden

Why is it called tachycardia? Is this term used for extra rogue beats?

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to hock217

Tachycardia is very fast heart rate

hock217
hock217 in reply to Babyr1996

Thank you. I thought tachycardia vs arrhythmia had to do with area of heart generating issue.

My Kardia sometimes tells me if there is a lot of interference but ignores odd big blips. If it says 'Possible AF' (it never says Definitely) then it probably is.

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to Buffafly

Thank you

It is irregularly irregular fast atrial rhythm that is afib.

Doesn’t look irregular to me. There’s an ectopic in the top line, but this is just NSR to my eyes.

It says "possible atrial fibrillation" so you want to show it to your doctor. I would also show the "unclassified" to your doctor as well. You might also want to take your ecg periodically to see if you're still in afib. Alternatively, depending on where you live, you can email the ecg to Kardia's certified cardiologists who will analyze the ecg for a fee. They have that service in the U.S.

Jim

A higher resolution scan would help but the first thing is that you QRS morphology changed in the first row from a normal to a Left Bundle Branch Block (LBBB) pattern for the rest of the recording. I am not sure how that change will effect the algorithm. Your rate is not extremely irregular but at this resolution I cannot determine if you have P-waves. You should show this to your doctor to see if the LBBB pattern is new.

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to DrDave01

Thank you DrDave01 that is really helpful that would be something new to me but to also say I have a biotronic closed loop simulated duel chamber pacemaker so would that make a difference to what you see?

I was just about to put a post on as my follow up appt post CTI ablation on 18th April which was the 7th September has now been put back to 21st December 8 months post procedure I feel this is in breach of NICE guidelines? I’ve rang EP secretary and left msg awaiting reply!! My cardiologist can’t see me till after post procedure appt my GP feels my heart meds need adjusting as I’ve lost lots if weight and my Bp is very very low I’m monitoring at home till Friday I see gp next Monday for results

I will show him the ecg I got and mention what you say as that’s the closest I can get to getting something done

Is left bundle branch something I should be worrying about? To say upon waking the same day my HR was 132bpm but didn’t manage to capture it and I had a dull ache in my chest like ide banged into something it was only slight and not a pain to worry about but I felt I was out of rhythm all day and very much up and down and both was 77/42

Thank you and sorry for the long rant I’m just feeling frustrated with it all at the moment

Thank you so much for the kind of diagnosis I really do appreciate it very very much

Hazel

Yes! You went from normal conduction to paced in that first line. Our algorithms can’t tell AFib if you are being paced so ignore that diagnosis. That transition is what fooled it and we state in our documentation that we cannot evaluate paced rhythms. Sorry for the confusion but now I understand what happened. I hope that helps.

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to DrDave01

Hi thank you so no LBBB then? In that case a relief!! I just suddenly thought bout the pacemaker making a difference

When you are paced from the apex of the right ventricle, it gives you a LBBB QRS morphology.

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to DrDave01

I’m learning something new everyday!! So if I got this right when I’m paceing it kind of mimics that of LBBB ah that’s just confusing to me. An ecg will say it is when it’s not. Nothing straight forward haha!! But I do thank you really I do thank you. You’ve put my mind at rest

Hidden
Hidden in reply to Babyr1996

I think we are very fortunate to have Dr Dave on the forum to come in at times like this. ( he is after all the inventor of the Kardia!)

Babyr1996
Babyr1996 in reply to Hidden

Wow I never knew that i feel honoured

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