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Hello Everyone,

This is a bit of a strange one. We live in a fairly warm part of the country. It's a little chilly right now, but definitely not too cold.

For the first time ever, my husband is always very cold. He will turn the heat up to 75 degrees inside and then wear 2 shirts, a sweat shirt and a coat. He will sit covered with 3 heavy blankets up to his neck and still be shivering.

We saw the oncologist last week for his regular appointment and told him about it and he wasn't concerned. His labs look good. Some of the red blood labs are off as they have been lately, but the oncologist says it is normal for some of the labs to be off since he has no testosterone. He is not anemic.

I'm wondering, since he has zero testosterone, could that be why he is so cold? Have any of you experienced this?

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IKNY profile image
IKNY

ADT has definitely made me more sensitive to the cold, including shivering when it’s 70 inside.

Then I put a warm piece of clothing over, just to remove it when I get the hot flashes.

Skin seems to be fragile as well, getting the crepe at 63… makes me feel like a geezer.

All endurable, rather have this than cancer on the March.

All the best.

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Vangogh1961 in reply toIKNY

Same. My house is 70 degrees but I have two long sleeve shirts on and have taken to wear scarves. They seem to make a big difference and easy to loosen as needed.

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DesertDaisy in reply toVangogh1961

A neck scarf might help. I didn't think of that. I was reading that a thyroid problem could cause this also. I know his thyroid was check about 4-6 months ago and it was fine, but maybe we should check that again.

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podsart in reply toDesertDaisy

definitely check thyroid: make sure get t3 free reading as well as TSH

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Broccoli24

I definitely feel the cold too on ADT. Yep, wearing more clothes. But I find getting exercise and the blood flowing helps a lot too.

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Vangogh1961 in reply toBroccoli24

I work from home and it is the sitting that adds to it definitely.

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Alturia

I got what my wife and I called cold flashes a couple of times a month when on ADT. I would shiver uncontrollably even though I was wearing a turtle neck and sweater. I would put on a watch cap and gloves and my wife would pile on 2 or 3 blankets and in 30 to 60 minutes I would be back to normal and throwing everything off.

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Tall_Allen

It's usually called "hot flashes," but it is really thermal dysregulation -- it can be feeling hot or cold, sometimes both. If it is annoying, some of the treatments with some proven effectiveness are aural acupuncture, low-dose estrogen patches, Megace, oxybutynin, or Effexor (venlafaxine). The best drug is probably Veyozah, but it is so far approved for menopausal women, although I know a few men who have gotten it.

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Johnkelsey in reply toTall_Allen

I tried Effexor learned I am allergic to it was very ill and went to the emergency room to be rehydrated. Rare but hey

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MarylandGuy

yes, feeling cold is normal. I am sitting by a heater now. Normally I was very cold resistant, but not anymore.

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Huzzah1

Yes, happened to me as well. As IKNY said upstream, my skin also became super fragile. It would cut so easily and bruise. I am now 8 months out from my final Lupron shot and feel that it's all back to normal. Hang in there!

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Tommyj2 in reply toHuzzah1

I too have a BIG problem with skin fragility….any bump or scratch leaves me with a sub cu bruise……I thought it was the prednisone causing this……are you on pred?

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Huzzah1 in reply toTommyj2

I was on P but I am finished with ADT. Skin is back to normal!

CRPCMan profile image
CRPCMan

Just goes with the Cancer. Get warm.

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MobilityTech

Yes your body having difficulty regulating it's temperature is a part of ADT. Some of will have greater reactions to some side affects, than others. I get huge hot flashes, and then super cold afterwards. Other times I'm just cold when its not that cold.

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TJGuy in reply toMobilityTech

Cold feet will make your whole body cold, put on warm socks.

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MarkBC

I get cold a lot in the winter. I often wear a toque (for non-Canadians, a knitted hat 🇨🇦 😀) inside the house and in bed. I always feel a lot warmer when the top of my head is warm.

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Mgtd in reply toMarkBC

Shades of the Christmas Carol.

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Doctorsceptic

Hi! A few questions . As some of the others have said this may be just a consequence of the adt However:

Which lab results are off please?

Has he had thyroid function tests (TSH) done again?

Has his weight changed significantly since this started??

Darryl profile image
DarrylPartner

Just a common sense caution not to wear scarves during sleep nor to wear clothes that constrict blood circulation , chest (lungs) or oxygen intake.

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PoetOfTheRoad

Loss of control over body temperature seems to be a regular part of The Road we walk with this disease. Mostly I remain cold in my core even when my skin, and my panic-mode, are telling me I'm on fire. Strange days! I have kind of got used to it. The alternative remains uninviting. Best wishes.

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MichaelDD

As I lay under two blankets, and the third being heated I very much go through this all day long. Some days are better than others. I have had to learn to regulate by layering my clothes. In my PJs and wearing a long sleeve shirt and an undershirt with those blankets. I have two Ororo jackets. The down one is very lightweight but is one of the best heating jackets I've had. So I don't look like a gorilla when I am out and about. I too live in a fair climate of northern California in the East Bay. Just at the oncologist yesterday / Friday and he always notices my layering. Found out I while I was there I have gone metastatic to my ribs with my first lesions there. So I've had a rough time thinking about that and reading of course this blog. As I told him it's something I will just live with when we discuss the neuropathy.

PS I always were two pairs of socks also. My wife knows I'm really cold inside the house when I actually will wear that jacket.

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DesertDaisy in reply toMichaelDD

Thank you Michael. So sorry to hear the cancer has gone metastatic. We've been there and it's a difficult thing to hear. Hang in there.

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Lizzo30

I agree with Doctorsceptic it is most probably to do with your husbands thyroid - you see when testosterone is low so is dopamine and it's dopamine that kickstarts the thyroid system I give my husband Guggul from Piping Rock in US it supports his thyroid

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DarrylPartner

TO EVERYONE: I just sent out a quick single question survey/poll to approximate how prevalent this is in our community. The survey won't identify cause. I think we all might be curious how associated "feeling cold" is with ADT. Please respond to the survey.

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DesertDaisy in reply toDarryl

It's so funny, we hear so much about the hot flashes, but never about the opposite.

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Jpburns

Just checking in to say yes, I get that too. At night, hot flashes followed by chills. Taken to wearing a sweater during the day.

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85745

Yes I am another one of many here. But the cold is better than hot flashes..... I think, lol

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Yank66

I told my hubby that they broke his thermostat. Comfort zone 73-75

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DesertDaisy

I to keep my house at 75 f.

There are times when reading a book or watching TV in the evening I need a blanket.

It is somewhat of a colder winter here. When I need to go somewhere I warm the vehicle up for 10-15 minutes, otherwise, I am just shaking in it.

This is not similar to a here and then gone hot flash, it is a constant feeling of cold.

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carguy

In the winter, I’m cold all the time. I have a space heater under my desk near my feet when I’m working at home. I get hot flashes periodically from ADT, then I’m cold again.

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anonymoose2

A nice warm beverage, particularly coffee has always warmed me up.

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Jpburns in reply toanonymoose2

Yeah, I'm drinking tea in the evening sometimes, and I actually chose oatmeal this morning, because I was cold.

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dhccpa

I live on north central Florida coast, 7.5 years. Last winter I began to notice a greater sensitivity to cold, more this winter. I attribute it to 6.5 years of Lupron, a drop of 50+ pounds since July 2019 on plant based diet, and increasing wimpification from becoming increasingly Floridized.

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TJGuy in reply todhccpa

Moving to Florida for the winter will see you wearing coats, hats, gloves when the temperature drops into the 50s or 60s. As I was once told, "Florida will ruin you", in jest.

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dhccpa in reply toTJGuy

Definitely

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Pjford

I get chills I never had before and I’m not that old (62) so he’s not alone .

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Islandboy2021

Having cold and hot feeling is very common with this disease because of the side effects of the medications. I am in the advanced stage of this disease and I get very cold moments throughout the day. I find its worse if I am taking any kind of medications for pain.

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kiteND

Yes, I was told by my oncologist and read it elsewhere that the prednisone that many of us take with abiriterone thins a layer between the outer skin and the nerves that helps keep us warm. I'm sorry that I do not remember the medical terms.

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j-o-h-n

Cold? Nowadays I'm usually fully dressed, wearing a full length robe and walking around the house doing Uncle Junior (from the Sopranos) impressions.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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larry_dammit

I’m not that bad but been on ADT now for 8 years. I’m cold at 75 until I have a hot flash then I turn on the ceiling fan until I’m cold again.

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TJGuy

How is his blood pressure, does he take blood pressure meds, does he work out strenuously after taking his BP meds beforehand? There can be a relationship to low blood pressure and blood circulation to being cold.

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