Fenbendazole

[Zavulon1945]

Hello, friends!!!Is there anyone who is currently taking fenbendazole? Does it help?

[Diana2727]

Hi! I know three people on it. Two people for 1 year and they are doing great. One is Gleason 9, stage 4, and now has returned to work, as he seems to be NED after 30 sessions radiation, plus some many supplements and Ivermectine. The other has refused classic treatments and was given 2 years. He is here still after 6 years, with kind of the same protocol. My dad started taking it 1 month ago, and he didn't have any side effects. We'll see in 3 months time how his scans will look like.

[Seasid in reply to Diana2727]

Sounds good to me.

[Zavulon1945 in reply to Diana2727]

Thanks for the quick response. What regimen is your father taking his fbz?

[Xavier10]

You should probably ask your doctor rather than relying on anecdotal evidence that might be true. Or might not be

[Doctorsceptic in reply to Xavier10]

Exactly

[85745 in reply to Xavier10]

My opinion not many if any doctor in the main medical system will go off message when it comes to vet drugs or repurposed non standard protocols. So ones needs to do there own deep research dive.

[JohnInTheMiddle]

Just this past year there is a huge thread of almost 150 replies about fenben. Brings out the worst in magical thinking. I take some supplements. But when I looked into that one, very quickly one learns about serious risks and completely unproven claims. As the comment above says, anecdotes mean nothing. And behind the scenes there's a whole community of people sharing poor quality ideas. I'm totally in favor of people learning as much as they can about a particular affliction. And you might choose a different path than your doctors recommend. But that's still in the world of responsibility and accountability.

[Zavulon1945 in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

I've already gone through all the suggested therapies, but the methas are growing.

[JohnInTheMiddle in reply to Zavulon1945]

My heart goes out to you Zavulon. I read your bio and as you say there's all the suggested therapies. Including surgery and radiation. May I ask if these therapies were guided by a urologist, a radiation ontologist or a medical oncologist?

As for fenben, it's an amazing phenomenon. Because in discourse concerning metastatic prostate cancer there's this bubbling dialogue going on all the time under the surface. Large numbers of people are keeping this discourse going. And the discourse has "receptors" everywhere. The discourse is like a cancer, it's constantly looking for new people with which to "bind" into the fenbendazole discourse system. The discourse is fed by second rate science, desperation and hope, fraud, anecdotes and illogical thinking - and probably some sincerity too.

Please allow me to criticize the implied logic from your reply above. "I've tried everything else, and the meds are still growing." This is not an argument for any choice of non-standard therapy. For example, it's not an argument for shooting yourself in the foot.

In a worrying situation, there is extra stress on decision making. The answer to your question "does it help?", is "no". No, as in there is "no serious clinical evidence by honest people that shows any worthwhile benefit of taking fenbendazole." And there's lots of evidence that it wrecks your body.

[Zavulon1945 in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

Yes. The therapies were supervised by a urologic oncologist and a radiation oncologist.

[JohnInTheMiddle in reply to Zavulon1945]

You don't have an opportunity to work with a medical oncologist? Once metastasis happens, then your prostate cancer is no longer just about plumbing, and you can't irradiate what may be a large number of metastases large and small. It is now a system-wide biological process and this is where the medical oncologist is your friend. The big picture is what you want from the medical oncologist.

[Zavulon1945 in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

To my surprise, I couldn't find any good oncologists in my neighborhood.The main problem is that at the beginning (before the surgery) there was a pandemic and I trusted my urologist too much, who convinced me that we could manage on our own.

[Seasid in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

Do you have a link to the big post about fenben? I would be interested in it. I will try to search myself also.

[JohnInTheMiddle in reply to Seasid]

There's this one with 150 replies (and there are quite a few different posts on fenbendazole):

healthunlocked.com/advanced...

[Seasid in reply to JohnInTheMiddle]

Thanks for your help. I was lazy.

[Dime2004]

hi

My father for years was on Fenbendazole due to having echinococus cysts on his liver. The doctors have said that it was slowing the progress of his prostate cancer. He lived with metastatic disease (bones, lungs and brain) for 14-15 years. He passed away 2 years ago.

[Seasid in reply to Dime2004]

Good information.

[RazorSaw]

Easy enough to find review articles out there that suggest the anti-parasitics, including fenben, may have inhibitory or killing effects on cancer cells. But, even these reviews are not citing real clinical research. Your decision if anecdotal 'evidence' is good enough for you. But these compounds have serious side effects, not benign.

If I go out for breakfast tomorrow and someone has recommended to me that the restaurant has the best fresh squeezed orange juice in town, I'm planning to try it. When it comes to things like Ivermectin and Fenben, it's not a casual thing. I need more research, and need to know how these may interact with other legitimate medications I'm taking.

[SillyUserName2]

Go to: Fenbendazole.org. Just because no drug company will ever spend the money for a phase 3 trial doesn’t mean a drug doesn’t work. Fenben has been used by millions for parasitic infections and it has a fairly solid safety profile, so it won’t hurt to try.

It’s only been conclusively proven in the past few years that exercise and a good diet could extend life. Until that time, those were also considered a waste of time. You don’t need a phase 3 trial to have common sense.

[j-o-h-n]

Woof.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

[Mgtd in reply to j-o-h-n]

My dogs heard that!

[j-o-h-n in reply to Mgtd]

LOL (And my whistle too).........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

[85745]

That's Dog medicine ! Ok, and the FDA approved human version is Mebendazole. I have taken both . Cycle in and out with other drugs like Nitazoxinide and Ivermectin( RX) . Right now I'm taking Nitazoxinide. Info at Rumble: Sunfruit Dan channel. Also Fenbendazole. org. Yes I do believe it is helping me. Go for scan soon. If nothing else I'm worm free and don't get viral illness. Aka the C word . lol . I hear talk things are about to change when it come to repurposed drugs thanks to AI. and other factors. So I buckle up and stay tuned

[conagher]

Took Fenben 2years while on Casodex. Killed cancer in left rib, lymph node and L5. 222mg per day. Going to 444mg every other day. Radiation therapy missed 2 spots so going to get them gone. Looking for how much Ivermectin to take. Appreciated if someone says. Take care

[Zavulon1945 in reply to conagher]

Thanks for the details! Do you take it every day? No intervals?

[32Percenter]

With most of the Fenbendazole success stories I've seen with PCa patients (and I've researched this to death since May 2023), some form of ADT was also in the mix. We all know how effective modern ADT drugs are in most advanced cases, so Occam's Razor suggests it's the ADT doing the heavy lifting, not the dewormer. When I see posts by people on Fenbendazole groups or forums gushing about how well it worked for their advanced prostate cancer, inevitably when I push them for more info we learn that the Fenbendazole use is concurrent with, or subsequent to, some form of ADT.

That said though, there is research out there showing the similar Mebendazole helps Docetaxel chemo work better against PCa, so there's probably some room somewhere for it in a PCa treatment plan, with the proper timing and dosage. On dosage, absorption is a problem. Most of it isn't absorbed and gets pooped out, which is great for killing parasites in a dog's (or person's) digestive tract, but not for getting into the bloodstream and killing cancer. The answer may lie in taking higher doses (I've seen recommendations as high as 4000mg/day), but there are probably risks to the liver and intestinal lining at these levels.

[Zavulon1945 in reply to 32Percenter]

Thanks You!!

[conagher in reply to 32Percenter]

Well I was taking Fenben before Casodex. No other ADT. Started Chemo which caused me to asperate do to another condition. 7 days in ICW. Trying to recover now. ADT with Parkingson means being bed ridden and I'm not going that route. So my only choice now is Fenbendazole. Each to their own. Have a good day

[32Percenter in reply to conagher]

Good luck with your situation, conagher. Sounds like you've been through hell so you're due some upside.

On Fenbendazole I did say "With most", so if you're outside that group and it's helping, keep at it!

[Aldo62]

I do it as part of my protocol, with no side effects that I notice. I also use Ivermectin.

[Kevinski65 in reply to Aldo62]

Any standard therapies with it?

[Zavulon1945 in reply to Kevinski65]

Luprone, xgeva, enzalutamid.

[Aldo62 in reply to Kevinski65]

Yes, I am also doing ADT drugs~ Orgovyx and Darolutamide, and a ton of other alternative things. This Fall I was becoming hormone resistant and I tried BAT therapy, which resensitized me to the ADT drugs. My PSA is currently 1.85 (from a high of nearly 1000, 3 years ago!)

[Aldo62 in reply to Aldo62]

I think Fenben has helped but I rely on a combination of western and alternative approaches. I do Fenben with DMSO, about 500 mg a day. (two small scoops and just enough DMSO to combine.)