CBD oils,gummies,candies..?Information thank you.

[petrig]

Do you have experience or knowledge of using CBD products.It is new to me but many here talk about it .Is it good for pain killing or sleeping..? If you have tried what is your opinion?Thanks.

[petrig]

Correction of the matter:We do have CBD oils,candies etc manufacturers also here in Finland🇫🇮.

[Seasid]

CBD (cannabidiol) products, including oils, gummies, and candies, have gained popularity for their potential health benefits. Here's a breakdown of what they are and how they might help:

What is CBD?

CBD is a non-psychoactive compound found in cannabis plants. Unlike THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), it doesn't produce a "high." CBD products are often derived from hemp and are legal in many regions, though laws can vary.

Common Forms of CBD

1. Oils and Tinctures: Taken sublingually (under the tongue), they are fast-acting and versatile.

2. Gummies and Candies: These are pre-dosed, discreet, and easy to use. Great for beginners.

3. Capsules and Pills: Ideal for consistent dosing.

4. Topicals: Lotions, creams, or balms for localized pain relief or skin conditions.

5. Vapes: Inhaled for fast relief, but not ideal for everyone due to potential lung risks.

Benefits (Based on Research and Anecdotal Evidence)

1. Pain Relief: CBD is believed to reduce inflammation and chronic pain. Some users with arthritis, migraines, or muscle pain report relief.

2. Sleep Aid: It may promote relaxation and improve sleep for those with insomnia or anxiety.

3. Anxiety and Stress: CBD interacts with receptors in the brain to help reduce anxiety and stress levels.

4. Epilepsy: Certain CBD products are FDA-approved for treating seizures (e.g., Epidiolex).

5. Other Uses: Potential benefits for skin conditions, gut health, and even general wellness.

Things to Consider

Dosage: Start with a low dose and adjust gradually. For example, 10-20mg/day is a common starting point.

Quality: Look for third-party lab-tested products to ensure safety and accurate CBD content.

Side Effects: Mild side effects can include dry mouth, drowsiness, or changes in appetite.

Interactions: If you're on medication, consult a healthcare provider before trying CBD, as it can interact with certain drugs.

Personal Opinions and Experiences

Many people find CBD effective for pain or sleep, but results can vary. Some users feel immediate benefits, while others need to use it consistently for weeks. If you're new, gummies or oils are a good starting point since they're easy to measure and consume.

Have you considered trying a specific product or brand, or are you looking for recommendations?

ChatGPT said

[Seasid in reply to Seasid]

It looks like there was a friendly misunderstanding in the conversation! Petrig clarified that Finland also has CBD manufacturers, which is good to know. It seems they might have mixed in some Finnish or doubted their English, but it’s all in good humor.

Do you plan to explore CBD products available locally in Finland, or are you considering international options? Let me know if you’d like recommendations or guidance specific to your region!

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[Lizzo30]

One thing to be aware of is that oils can stay in your system for up to six months CBD oil needs certain enzymes to process/ eliminate it out of the system if you don't have the required enzymes it can clog the system and cause depression - this is rare

It's the same reason why some young people who smoke cannabis develop psychosis - they lack the required enzymes to process the cannabis which is an oil based compound so it builds up in the system of course cannabis contains THC as well hence the psychosis - again this is rare but it can and does happen

[Seasid in reply to Lizzo30]

Lizzo30 brings up an interesting point about how the body processes CBD and cannabis-related compounds, which highlights the importance of individual differences in metabolism. Here's a more detailed look at this:

How CBD Is Processed in the Body

1. Metabolism: CBD is primarily broken down by enzymes in the liver, particularly those in the cytochrome P450 enzyme system (CYP enzymes). This system also metabolizes many medications.

2. Enzyme Variability: Genetic differences can affect enzyme activity. Some people may process CBD more slowly, potentially leading to longer-lasting effects or accumulation in the body.

3. Build-Up Concerns: While rare, inefficient metabolism could cause CBD to remain in the system longer, potentially leading to unexpected side effects like fatigue or mood changes.

Rare Risks of Accumulation

Depression: As mentioned, a slow breakdown of CBD might theoretically contribute to mood changes, though this is uncommon.

Drug Interactions: If you're taking other medications, slow CBD metabolism could interfere with how those drugs are processed.

Sensitivity: Some individuals might have a heightened sensitivity to CBD or its carrier oils.

Cannabis and Psychosis

Lizzo30 also noted the connection between cannabis (with THC) and psychosis:

THC vs. CBD: THC, the psychoactive component of cannabis, is more closely linked to psychosis, especially in individuals with genetic predispositions or underlying conditions.

Role of Enzymes: Like CBD, THC is processed by CYP enzymes. Those lacking efficient enzymes may be more susceptible to adverse effects.

Practical Advice

1. Start Slow: Always begin with a low dose to gauge how your body reacts.

2. Monitor Effects: If you notice unusual symptoms, stop using the product and consult a healthcare provider.

3. Genetic Testing: Some services offer testing to check enzyme activity related to drug metabolism, which might be helpful if you're concerned.

While the risks are rare, understanding how your body processes these compounds can help you make informed decisions. If you’re worried, it’s always a good idea to discuss with a healthcare professional!

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[TaylorMill]

FWIW, I frequently use CBD products. When the Farm Bill was passed in Congress which legalized low THC cannabis products I tried many new brands that came on the market. There were few then and mostly a mixed bag . There are numerous ones now. What I found in my personal use is that there are some that are extremely effective for sleep. However - regarding pain - are you asking with respect to internal pain or muscular/joint pain? I wish to clarify as I have no opinion related to any internal pain, but external CBD salves do seem effective for muscle/joint pain. One caveat though is that these salves tend to also contain lidocaine and other traditional components so it’s unclear to me how much CBD helps.

Also as I am also a PC patient, I am aware that there is ongoing research as to whether CBD helps in any way for PC itself or treatment of symptoms. Perhaps it might with symptoms but not clear if any actual PC treatment. Such research seems a mixed bag at this point - my motivation to use CBD has been near 100% for sleep only with no other expectations

[Seasid in reply to TaylorMill]

TaylorMill shares valuable insights about using CBD products, emphasizing personal experiences with their effectiveness for sleep and muscle/joint pain. Here’s a deeper dive into their points:

CBD for Sleep

Effectiveness: Many people, like TaylorMill, find CBD helpful for promoting relaxation and improving sleep. Some studies suggest it may reduce anxiety and stress, which can contribute to better rest.

Preferred Forms: Oils, tinctures, or gummies are common choices for sleep. Products combined with melatonin are also popular.

CBD for Pain

External Pain (Muscle/Joint): CBD salves and topicals can offer relief for localized pain or inflammation. TaylorMill notes that these products often include lidocaine or other ingredients, so the exact role of CBD can be unclear.

Internal Pain: Evidence for CBD's effectiveness for internal pain (e.g., neuropathic or chronic pain) is still emerging. It might work indirectly by reducing inflammation or anxiety related to pain perception.

CBD and Prostate Cancer (PC)

TaylorMill mentions ongoing research regarding CBD and prostate cancer:

1. Symptom Management: CBD may help manage symptoms like anxiety, pain, or nausea (e.g., from treatment side effects).

2. Treatment Potential: While there’s preliminary evidence suggesting CBD might have anti-cancer properties (e.g., inducing apoptosis in cancer cells), these findings are not conclusive and require more clinical research.

Key Takeaways

1. Tailored Use: TaylorMill primarily uses CBD for sleep and finds it highly effective, with no expectations for treating other conditions.

2. Topicals for Pain: While effective for muscle and joint pain, the presence of additional active ingredients complicates determining CBD’s specific role.

3. Cancer Research: CBD’s role in cancer treatment is unclear, though it may alleviate related symptoms.

This approach reflects realistic expectations and thoughtful use of CBD products. If you’re exploring CBD for similar purposes, focusing on reputable brands and consistent use can help you identify what works best for you.

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[petrig]

Thank you for your good answer. With "pain" I meant neuropathic pain and cancer pain when bone metastases.

[Seasid in reply to petrig]

Do you have any pain and which one?

[petrig]

Not just now. I had a lot of pain 2023(when the cancer was creating bone/ lymf node metastases and when I had my chemos november 2023-march 2024.And pains will come back when the cancer becomes castration resistant.It may take months or years but they will come back.So for the future...

[Seasid in reply to petrig]

Do you have any pain in the present? (Not in the past.)

[Seasid]

Current research does not suggest that CBD contributes to the spread of cancer. In fact, some preliminary studies indicate that CBD may have anti-cancer properties, such as slowing the growth of tumors or inducing cell death in cancer cells. However, these findings are not definitive, and much more research is needed to confirm them.

What the Research Says

1. Preliminary Evidence: Some laboratory and animal studies suggest CBD may:

Inhibit tumor growth.

Prevent the spread (metastasis) of certain cancer cells.

Induce apoptosis (programmed cell death) in cancer cells.

These effects appear to depend on the type of cancer, the dose, and the method of administration.

2. Anti-Inflammatory Effects: CBD's anti-inflammatory properties could potentially play a role in reducing an environment that supports cancer growth.

3. Caution with THC: Unlike CBD, high doses of THC may, in some cases, promote cancer cell proliferation, depending on the context. Products containing both THC and CBD should be used cautiously and under medical guidance.

4. Lack of Conclusive Evidence: While some findings are promising, the evidence is insufficient to claim that CBD treats or prevents cancer. It’s also unclear whether it interacts negatively with certain cancer therapies.

Can CBD Promote Cancer Spread?

There is no evidence to date suggesting that CBD promotes the spread of cancer. However, it’s crucial to:

Use CBD products from reputable manufacturers to avoid contaminants.

Discuss CBD use with your oncologist, as it may interact with treatments like chemotherapy or immunotherapy.

Recommendations

If you are considering CBD:

1. Consult Your Doctor: Particularly if you are undergoing cancer treatment, as CBD may interact with medications.

2. Monitor Effects: Pay attention to how your body responds to CBD.

3. Stick to Research-Backed Uses: Use CBD to manage symptoms like pain, anxiety, or nausea unless directed otherwise by a healthcare provider.

While CBD shows promise, it should not replace conventional cancer treatments. Always rely on medical advice tailored to your specific condition.

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[johnscats]

I've taken cbd thc version and for last 2 years at least quarter of a mill a day 1000mg strength in 30ml bottle it does ease my arthritis even though I have mets to t5 l4 l2 I femur rib and probably other places I don't know I don't really get any pain from the mets if any they itch sometimes hope this helps

[dhccpa]

I've used CBD, Swanson brand recommended by Consumer Lab, using the Swanson web site. But I've used THC a lot more, Indica strain at night for sleeping, and I've used the salve on my vertebrae for occasional pain. Not sure the pain has been related to PCa (two Mets there, depending on which scan I believe) but seems to get rid of it.

[SteveTheJ]

I have tried a variety of them and the only one I still take is full spectrum CBD oil, approx 80mg twice a day. A physician friend sent some info about how this oil might discourage cancers but as for any physical effects, such as calming or appetite stimulation, CBD does nothing for me. YMMV. I encourage you to try them yourself.

[Miccoman]

This old stoner, um, boomer, boomer! has used cannabis for decades and CBD tincture since 2014. Tried gummies but, to me, they tasted like bong water, um, I mean unpleasant.

As I've gotten older, I've moved away from THC and am very taken aback at the high amounts now available in products. When I smoke pot I'm looking for a buzz, not to be part of the furniture Although should the time come that that level of intoxication is needed for pain, I'd rather get it from THC than from an opioid.

Since my diagnosis in 2014, I've used CBD tincture pretty much every day -- about 17 mg sublingually in the morning and evening -- and it seems to keep me on a more even keel emotionally and it does help with the bone pain, not as much as acupuncture or tylenol but it probably would if I took a larger dose. Being a less-is-better guy when dealing with meds, I would rather keep lower doses of everything. Also, after 10 years of continual treatment here in the US I don't have much in the way of disposable income.

Seems there are several processes for extracting the oil, so you should look into that aspect when evaluating what to try. AND look into it yourself, don't rely on ChatGPT -- it's great for putting words together but any alleged facts need to be checked carefully.

[SsgCulldelight]

Yo in smiling thinking about how that's going to make you feel. It's excellent for pain and an overall feeling of exuberance, confidence and bayou feels. The trick is to Pic the right type and strength cuz you don't want to be high or low, I suggest sativa strain for you at close to its lowest strength to start, that will help a lot with sleep and pain relief. Mild as it doesn't hit hard Smith cuz it doesn't wierd you out or space you out, so give it a try you'll thank yourself when you do. Cheers my friend.

[SsgCulldelight in reply to SsgCulldelight]

Hey also if it's also you really NEED then Indica is really the strain for that, I just wouldn't want u to get zonked out so variables in strength is what u need to pay attention to when considering your purchase, again, cheers my friend.

[Mjex]

I have tried a combo of CBD and CBN in gummies. It is great for sleep. It needs a little THC to work, though, but not enough to really get high

[petrig]

Thc is illegal in Finland so I will not try that. Maybe cbd oil in future for cancer pain if other painkillers dont work...But hope will not need to...

[j-o-h-n]

Pulla....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n